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Huge tailoring mistake - what are my options?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by dmass1, May 25, 2011.

  1. aguydude

    aguydude Well-Known Member

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    Enjoy your loss and your OCD, wiseass...

    what's your fucking problem, man?
     
  2. cldpsu

    cldpsu Well-Known Member

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    How close is the side seam to the top of the waist when tucked? One possibility could be to sew some shirting fabric onto the shirts cut to the side seam length you enjoy and blended in. To do this, he could undo the hem and you'd have a heftier rolled hem for a short distance at the blended in area or he could also even serge the bottom to avoid the thick rolled hem. Leaving it serged would give you some additional length. Forget about how the finishing looks at this point. Just make sure it sits where you want it and any extra added fabric doesn't cause any awkward bulk at hip level under the trousers.
     
  3. Timbaland

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    Damn purple label shirts are pricey. Surprised you took them in to be tailored. I wouldn't pay that much for a shirt unless it fit perfectly. If you do decide to do the gussets like I suggested, you shouldn't have to pay for it.
     
  4. Dbear

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    BrooksBrothers?

    Return them for a full refund, or if you don't have a receipt, you get store credit. Don't worry, their cost for the shirts is $2-3 at most.
     
  5. dmass1

    dmass1 Well-Known Member

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    BrooksBrothers?

    Return them for a full refund, or if you don't have a receipt, you get store credit. Don't worry, their cost for the shirts is $2-3 at most.


    I didn't think this was possible anyway if I tailored the shirt myself? Anyhow, these were clearance shirts, no more in my size, and I believe they are no longer making the extra slim fit ginghams. Oh well

    Damn purple label shirts are pricey. Surprised you took them in to be tailored. I wouldn't pay that much for a shirt unless it fit perfectly. If you do decide to do the gussets like I suggested, you shouldn't have to pay for it.

    I didn't pay retail for these shirts - I purchased on ebay. Still great shirts though [​IMG]

    How close is the side seam to the top of the waist when tucked? One possibility could be to sew some shirting fabric onto the shirts cut to the side seam length you enjoy and blended in. To do this, he could undo the hem and you'd have a heftier rolled hem for a short distance at the blended in area or he could also even serge the bottom to avoid the thick rolled hem. Leaving it serged would give you some additional length. Forget about how the finishing looks at this point. Just make sure it sits where you want it and any extra added fabric doesn't cause any awkward bulk at hip level under the trousers.

    The sides are about 1 inch from the top of my pants when tucked in and if I move around they immediately come out. I imagine this is going to be even worse for a few of the shirts that have yet to be washed once there is some shrinkage (told the tailor to go .5 inches longer in the hem for these and he did, but only in the front and back length [​IMG]) I'd considered sowing extra fabric to the sides (apparently he still has the fabric), but that eliminates any ability to wear these untucked which is why I took them in to begin with haha.

    Like Meso said, I'm considering slimming the shirts to atleast make the proportions right and having the tailor chop the extra fabric in front and on the tail to make it more wearable untucked. I figured they may be passable for s/s shirts. My one concern is that some of these shirts are a little too formal for this. What have I got to lose at this point?

    Anyone think this is a bad idea?
     
  6. TheDroog

    TheDroog Well-Known Member

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    dmass, I'm having trouble following your logic. If you want to wear your shirts tucked in, you generally want the hem to be as long as possible -- this prevents the shirt from slipping out when you sit and move around. Dress shirts have very long hems for this very reason. If you want to wear these shirts untucked (ie. casually), then the hem should be short, just below belt level. This sounds like what the tailor gave you.
     
  7. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Well-Known Member

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    cut off a little more and turn them into shirt-bras
     
  8. dmass1

    dmass1 Well-Known Member

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    dmass, I'm having trouble following your logic. If you want to wear your shirts tucked in, you generally want the hem to be as long as possible -- this prevents the shirt from slipping out when you sit and move around. Dress shirts have very long hems for this very reason. If you want to wear these shirts untucked (ie. casually), then the hem should be short, just below belt level. This sounds like what the tailor gave you.

    My logic was that with some decent tailoring, I could make my shirts more versatile by cutting them to a length that would allow me to wear tucked in as well as untucked. Are you saying that you must have some shirts for tucking and some for wearing untucked? In my opinion, these are not mutually exclusive, and the first one he hemmed proves this.

    I'm 5 ft 7, 165 lbs with a 40 inch chest and a 32 inch waist. Not the most drastic drop around, but I still have a lot of trouble finding OTR shirts that will fit my chest and shoulders yet be short enough to wear untucked.

    What the tailor gave me were shirts with the perfect length in front and back, but drastically higher on the sides (cut differently than the test shirt).

    cut off a little more and turn them into shirt-bras

    [​IMG] this might be my only option... Seriously though, does anyone think slimming them and squaring the hems a little may be my best bet?
     
  9. pickpackpockpuck

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    Like Meso said, I'm considering slimming the shirts to atleast make the proportions right and having the tailor chop the extra fabric in front and on the tail to make it more wearable untucked. I figured they may be passable for s/s shirts. My one concern is that some of these shirts are a little too formal for this. What have I got to lose at this point?

    Anyone think this is a bad idea?


    I think you should do this to the less formal shirts and just resign yourself to wearing them untucked. For the more formal shirts, you can have the tailor sew the extra fabric back in like a gusset so that it blends and just continue to wear them tucked. This way hopefully all the shirts will continue to be wearable, at least.

    If it makes you feel better, I completely fucked up a $75 shirt the other day before I even had time to wear it. I swear man, I should hide my sewing machine from myself some days.

    I just got a sewing machine and I'm terrified of this. [​IMG]
     
  10. TheDroog

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    My logic was that with some decent tailoring, I could make my shirts more versatile by cutting them to a length that would allow me to wear tucked in as well as untucked. Are you saying that you must have some shirts for tucking and some for wearing untucked? In my opinion, these are not mutually exclusive, and the first one he hemmed proves this. I'm 5 ft 7, 165 lbs with a 40 inch chest and a 32 inch waist. Not the most drastic drop around, but I still have a lot of trouble finding OTR shirts that will fit my chest and shoulders yet be short enough to wear untucked. What the tailor gave me were shirts with the perfect length in front and back, but drastically higher on the sides (cut differently than the test shirt).
    Okay, I see. Personally, I don't try to find shirts that do double duty. It's pretty impossible for a shirt to be long enough to stay tucked in all day and then short enough to look good untucked. Your shirts sound too short for tucking to be a solid option anymore, so I'd wear them untucked and just be more careful in the future. If they look bad untucked, maybe they're still too long and need to be raised further. Penguin usually has shirts cut to the right length for the untucked look, see pic below: [​IMG]
     
  11. dmass1

    dmass1 Well-Known Member

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    I think there's a perfect length that can be good for both, but agree that its a very small window and can be tough to achieve. The tailor nailed it with the first shirt, but the rest were a disaster.


    The reason that the penguin shirt posted looks good untucked is because the hem is more horizontal and straight when compared to a standard "dress shirt" meant to be tucked in. This is how the test shirt was done and how I had hope the others would turn out. I think if a shirt with said hem hits about 3/4 of the way down your fly, or about 5 inches from the top of the pants it can look untucked and work tucked as well.

    Oh well, live and learn I guess. I'm going to slim them to make them look cleaner and more proportionate and just wear them untucked I guess.
     
  12. brad-t

    brad-t Well-Known Member

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    Did you ask the tailor why he cut it so differently from the first?
     
  13. dmass1

    dmass1 Well-Known Member

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    Yea. He said he followed the shape of the original hem. I told him that's not how he cut the first shirt but he didn't recall ( I even asked him if he wanted to keep the test shirt as a reference while he worked and he declined ) He acknowledged that he made a mistake and offered to slim the shirts but couldn't get a refund. Probably could have gotten my $ back if I pushed, but I didn't feel like making a scene and hiring someone else to try to save the shirts.

    Will update when I get em back....
     
  14. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Well-Known Member

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    he already cut too much off, and you're gonna try to cut off more to fix them? [​IMG]
     
  15. jimmyfingers

    jimmyfingers Well-Known Member

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    I would have demanded a refund. A good tailor would have refunded or offered to try and fix the shirts without you asking first.

    I find it is very hard to have a shirt that can be worn both tucked in and un tucked. Their are a few more variables that go into each specific shirt that would allow this. So, the model Polo shirt you gave him was useless since the other 8 shirts are constructed differently.

    I am having trouble finding a decent tailor in my area. I know of one place that is good, but its an hour away and pricey.

    post some pics
     
  16. impolyt_one

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    tbh, OP didn't give him enough instructions. If he wanted something a certain way, he needed to go through each of the 8 shirts, indicate to which length the front and back should've been, as well as the sides, individually. It's the only way - once material is cut, it's not going to be able to magically reconnected.
     
  17. ter1413

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    did you try on EACH shirt and have him measure and you ok'd the length on EACH shirt?
    or did you use the test shirt as the "test shirt" and say.."make these 8 like that?"
    this^^ is key....if you tried on EACH shirt...his bad...
    if you didn't...your bad!
    if your bad......know that EVERY different brand is cut differently and you should NEVER go to a tailor with a pair of pants(for example)and say.."cuff these at a 30" length"..without trying with proper shoes on.

    so....did you try on each shirt?
     
  18. dmass1

    dmass1 Well-Known Member

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    did you try on EACH shirt and have him measure and you ok'd the length on EACH shirt?
    or did you use the test shirt as the "test shirt" and say.."make these 8 like that?"
    this^^ is key....if you tried on EACH shirt...his bad...
    if you didn't...your bad!
    if your bad......know that EVERY different brand is cut differently and you should NEVER go to a tailor with a pair of pants(for example)and say.."cuff these at a 30" length"..without trying with proper shoes on.

    so....did you try on each shirt?


    i did in fact try each shirt on and he pinned them where they were to be hemmed in front and back. As I said before, the problem is with sides because he followed the shape of the original hem going much shorter on the sides. Maybe I should have been more adamant, I figured he'd cut them the same as the first (where he made the hem slightly shorter on the sides but mostly a horizontal cut). Really this is his error more than mine.

    he already cut too much off, and you're gonna try to cut off more to fix them? [​IMG]

    Yea - I know it seems kind of counterintuitive, but the only way I'm able to wear them now is untucked because they're so short and I think they'll look better if they're slimmed and don't have 3 inches of extra fabric in the front and back.

    Still pissed, but hopefully this works out. At the very least I've learned a valuable lesson.
     
  19. brad-t

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    Did you specify to NOT follow the original shape of the hem? Because that's pretty important.
     
  20. cldpsu

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    I believe you could get away using the shirt both tucked and not tucked if the rise is sufficient. I like the rise at a point high enough so the length is enough to stay tucked in while still looking good with jeans without a tuck.
     

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