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Hondas SUCK!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by JoeWoah, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Well-Known Member

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    We've owned 5 Hndas the last 20 years and have had ZERO issues. The wife currently has an Element that has been flawless teh first two years.

    I had and 81 Civic and a 91 Si that both went to north of 250k on the original timing belts(!).

    Looks like you've just had an unfortunate coincidence.
     
  2. Lucky7

    Lucky7 Well-Known Member

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    Joe Woah,

    Don't you know that anything with an engine or tits is going to cause you problems no matter what?
     
  3. turboman808

    turboman808 Well-Known Member

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    Built a turbo honda civic back in 99 with 350hp. Swear I could beat on it all day and never had an issue with it. Put 146k miles on it. In all that time only thing that broke was the distributor once. I am still in amazement of just how solid that car was. Doubt I will ever own a car that reliable again.

    Sounds like the quality has gone down. Worst of all you got me worried. I got a 2006 accord with 20k miles on it. Hope we don't have any issues with it. SO far so good but it did need a new battery after 15k miles.
     
  4. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Well-Known Member

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    My parents have a 02 honda accord...the car has had no problems except the radio just died suddenly a few weeks ago. What exactly went wrong with yours? The radio/CD player in my parents car still gets power (the backlite LED still works) but just doesn't work. Can I replace the HU or will I have to take it to Honda?? Oh yah, they're transmissions suck for anything beyond the Inline 4...I had a 03 Acura TL...transmission blew from the rigerious 30minute journey between my home and office.
    Mine was an electrical issue, not just the unit. The radio worked but the lights went out (so you couldn't actually see anything) as did the HVAC control unit (not just the lights). I had to get a new unit and there were some control parts back there that, apparently, had moisture issues. AKA: improper seals.
    Joe Woah, Don't you know that anything with an engine or tits is going to cause you problems no matter what?
    I know a little bit about cars. This was the car I had before the Honda, she was anything but stock, except for the Transmission and I never had a problem: [​IMG] "Corvette, om nom nom." My main issue was that my car was impeccably maintained and had ridiculously low mileage. I anticipated the transmission problem after the jet kit install so I did transmission fluid changes every year and installed a B&M transmission cooler. If they stood by the car, they could have really impressed me. Despite the problems I probably would have bought an '08 Accord had they shown me something. In this market, you'd think they'd want to retain customers, not piss them off and force them to run though hoops. Way to go Honda! I can not recommend buying a Honda, nor will I, for the rest of my days. Insult to injury: the heat doesn't work now!!! I fucking hate this car with a burning passion!
     
  5. Tarmac

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    Did you know that brits think VWs are reliable?
     
  6. sonick

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    Insult to injury: the heat doesn't work now!!! I fucking hate this car with a burning passion!
    Air in the cooling system? Leaking heater core?

    If the former, pretty easy fix. Just have to bleed the system.
     
  7. BrettChaotix

    BrettChaotix Well-Known Member

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    Just to give Honda a lil' bit of credit....

    I purchased a 98 Civic in 2000 or 2001 and it had about 50,000 miles on it. I treated it like absolute shit and it held up like a rock. I tinkered with the engine doing all the stupid stuff that kids did to rice burners back then - replaced the air intake, messed with the tranny and shocks, messed with the electrical system to a level that can be considered dangerous and I frequently went longer than 10,000 miles without oil changes.

    I've got to say it took my abuse really well. I never had any major engine or tranny issues and maintenance was cheap because everyone works on them. I sold it several years later at about 130,000 miles and it was still running (not for long, but still running) - and I think I still got a couple thousand trade in for it!
     
  8. TheFusilliJerry

    TheFusilliJerry Well-Known Member

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    My dad has an 04 civic si. bought it new, and has had no problems with it. I stand to inherit it in 5 months. I don't know anything about cars, but it seems okay. Its a stick, and it is a challenge to get it to stall. I even can release the clutch fully before I step on the gas and it works sometimes.
     
  9. PolePosition

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    I used to work for Honda and I can assure you that they most definitely do not suck....sure there are lemons that come through just like any other manufacturer.....but then again look at how many cars actually have significant problems out of the entire lot produced in any given year. I don't have hard data to back it up but from my experience Honda is pretty low on the percentage of vehicles that have issues like yours does. Being a Honda owner myself and having many friends with Hondas, experience has shown me personally that Honda reliability far exceeds that of other manufacturers in the price range.
     
  10. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Well-Known Member

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    I used to work for Honda and I can assure you that they most definitely do not suck....sure there are lemons that come through just like any other manufacturer.....but then again look at how many cars actually have significant problems out of the entire lot produced in any given year. I don't have hard data to back it up but from my experience Honda is pretty low on the percentage of vehicles that have issues like yours does. Being a Honda owner myself and having many friends with Hondas, experience has shown me personally that Honda reliability far exceeds that of other manufacturers in the price range.

    I could accept that more if they were willing to STAND behind their cars. These are known issues with TSB's and recalls on them. The fact that they don't speaks volumes.
     
  11. Happydayz

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    Own a 2001 Honda Accord here. The transmission started making funny sounds while based overseas in Germany. The Honda-Germany team there couldn't help me, so they put me in contact with Honda-America. These guys ended up shipping a new transmission from the US to Germany for me, paid for the labor associated with installing a new transmission, and even paid for my rental car while my car was in the shop.

    All of this while my vehicle was out of warranty and overseas.
     
  12. jjgold

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    GM isn't any better. I'll NEVER buy another American car again. Japenese all the way. Give me a Toyota. Although the German's make a nice car too. A Benz would be nice when the time comes. But no V-dubs!

    I knew it would not take long before the American Sucks thing started. Honda's are good cars. GM also makes good cars (yes I am in Detroit but not a part of the auto biz). The perception is they suck. All the manufacturers have some good and bad. I have a Cadillac that I love! I also have a S55 Mercedes that I ABSOLUTELY HATE! You just got one of the bad ones. One shitty apple should not ruin the whole bushel.
     
  13. JoeWoah

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    I knew it would not take long before the American Sucks thing started. Honda's are good cars. GM also makes good cars (yes I am in Detroit but not a part of the auto biz). The perception is they suck. All the manufacturers have some good and bad. I have a Cadillac that I love! I also have a S55 Mercedes that I ABSOLUTELY HATE! You just got one of the bad ones. One shitty apple should not ruin the whole bushel.

    I loved my Ford. GM, not so much.

    That rotten Honda comes from a really really big bushel. Check the Honda websites and TSB's, my transmission problem affects hundreds of thousands of cars. It took them over a year to fess up to it. Other recent models have massive engine problems are require engine swaps! They just don't have quality control anymore and they don't stand by their cars. In these cases they should be extending their warranties. 3-years/36,000 miles is not sufficient when they know of a defect that will fail after that!
     
  14. polyesterisok

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    Buy a Japanese Honda, ie Fit and S2000. When I buy Japanese I don't want it made in Ohio.
     
  15. Artisan Fan

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    I used to work for Honda and I can assure you that they most definitely do not suck....sure there are lemons that come through just like any other manufacturer.....but then again look at how many cars actually have significant problems out of the entire lot produced in any given year. I don't have hard data to back it up but from my experience Honda is pretty low on the percentage of vehicles that have issues like yours does. Being a Honda owner myself and having many friends with Hondas, experience has shown me personally that Honda reliability far exceeds that of other manufacturers in the price range.

    Doing pretty well if not tops: http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2008115.pdf
     
  16. Christofuh

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    You can buy a plain Jane (under $25K) Honda model and easily dial 200 grand on hit.
    How many front-wheel-drive American-engineered vehicles can touch that ?
     
  17. dusty

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    I drove a 93 Civic until last year [​IMG]
     
  18. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Well-Known Member

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    Doing pretty well if not tops: http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2008115.pdf

    Didn't they give an award to AT&T Wireless too? I don't put much stock into their opinions.

    You can buy a plain Jane (under $25K) Honda model and easily dial 200 grand on hit.
    How many front-wheel-drive American-engineered vehicles can touch that ?


    Mine would be lucky to hit 61K the way it's going.
     
  19. the.chikor

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    GM isn't any better. I'll NEVER buy another American car again. Japenese all the way. Give me a Toyota. Although the German's make a nice car too. A Benz would be nice when the time comes. But no V-dubs!

    I say it is all a crap shoot. I have had a GM for the last 6 years-not one problem. My GF, had a toyota Celica-that piece of shit broke down so much and cost so much in repairs that she gave it away and bought a Cooper Mini.

    I have six friends that had Mercedes in the past 6 years-they all got rid of them because they broke down too much and cost a fortune to fix. My mom gets a flat tire, calls triple A and gets her car fixed-She asks the guy, what is the number one car you tow in LA-the response-BMW. She says, well, what is number two? Guy says BMW. She asks, what is number three-the guy says BMW.

    I had a friend in school that had so many problems with his new Volkswagen, that he finally told them to keep it after they replaced it twice. He went and bought a Honda and didn't have any probems.

    I have a friend that bought one of the new Audi sedans-it broke so much in the past couple of years that he finally just told me today-I am getting rid of that piece of crap and buying a Toyota.

    My mom had a Toyota in 1999-brand new-six months into ownership the water pump and radiator go out! The dealer said sorry, not covered by waranty-$1500 please! Yet, my brother had a Toyota pick up in the 80s that ran for ever, with no problems other than routine maintenance.

    I have a co-worker that had a Japanese Mazda-brand new, that broke so much she had it replaced under the lemon law. The dealership were assholes, but being an attorney has its advantages I guess-at least it did for her.

    I had a friend ask me, I have a lexus now, and have had it for the past two years, before that I had a Lincoln for three years-what do you think was more reliable is what he asked me. I said-the Lexus of course. His reponse-I had no problems with either car-both equally reliable.

    In the 80s and 90s, I would have said hands down-Japanese build the best cars. Today-I no way would I say that- they are all pretty equal in quality-just fit/finish, price, style and service is what varies-not reliability. All manufactures are using CAD/CAM systems which takes out alot of the human error. Plus, electronics have gotten a lot better to enhance a car's reliability.

    So, go figure? I think it is a crap shoot-some cars are good and some bad, no matter who the manufacturer is-it is just hard to tell.
     
  20. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Well-Known Member

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    So, go figure? I think it is a crap shoot-some cars are good and some bad, no matter who the manufacturer is-it is just hard to tell.


    I agree with you, but my car and what Honda is doing (or not doing) is still bullshit. Back in college I worked as a troubleshooter at AAA. I could tell you that Audi's, VW's and BMW's would be the bulk of the calls. V6/4-banger American cars (the V8's were always solid) were right behind that (Cadillac Cimarron was the exception), but barely. Of course, BMW owners would talk about their car problems like it was some kind of badge of honor instead of the pain in the ass everyone thought they were.

    I find the overall reliability of Honda, Toyota and Subaru has decreased because of their rapid expansion in the late 90's-early 00's. Mercedes reliability isn't what it used to be either. At the same time, everyone else's reliability and build quality has approached/equaled the Japanese.

    VW/Audis are no longer the pariahs that they were in the 90's (those were BAD cars). American cars are, leaps and bounds better than they were back in the 80's and '90's. Jaguars, OMG! Nissans are much improved. Mazda is like a different company too, ditto with Hyundai/Kia!

    The two most reliable cars I've come across had to have been my mom's '89 Mercedes 300E and '92 Toyota Celica ('95+ Celicas were crap but the engine was SOLID). The things those two cars went through, they never quit. The Mercedes was a bit more quirky than the Celica, but both those cars were unstoppable, literally! The Merc's only problem was a broken AC Compressor.

    The Celica was run over, up to about mid-hood, by a Ford F350-HD driven by an Amtrak employee (funny story around that). She never got it fixed, it ran fine. The Celica was in 12 accidents, my mom gave up fixing it after 4. Later in that car's life my friends and I would just drive it into shit. Bent in half hood, trunk that couldn't open anymore because it was bent, dents on every side, years between oil changes and I would get her up to 140MPH on the highway (shook a bit). She was able to sell it for $1,000 after all that in '03.

    I'm getting the Infiniti next month anyway, better than waiting for this car to blow up on me on the highway.
     

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