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Homeless guy in my carport - a question of etiquette

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by mbc, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. Ataturk

    Ataturk Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you just have to wait. He'll eventually need a fix bad enough to break into your house (he knows your schedule, after all) and rob you. Then he'll probably move on.
     
  2. Rye GB

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    If the LAPD has the time to hide behind hedgerows in my neighborhood during every morning commute to hand out citations at Stop signs I believe they may have the time to fix this problem for you, God forbid we interrupt them from handing out frivolous tickets on behalf of local government quotas and make them conduct some real Police work.

    Sounds like something that would happen in my neighborhood: Silverlake, Echo Park, and Los Feliz vicinity. The longer you let this guy hang around your home the more you'll be exposing your daily schedule to him allowing an opportunist and his cohorts the knowledge of knowing when would be a good time to check out the inside of your house.
     
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    Sorry about that, dude... the girl kicked me out and I've been sleeping off a serious bender. I'll move out immediately.

    P.s. thanx for the wi-fi.
     
  4. TyCooN

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  5. Orsini

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    Also, bindlestiffs used to have a code they would draw or write on poles near the train tracks to indicate whether or not a house was a good place, e.g. does the house offer work, food, shotgun + dog, etc...
    Here it is: http://www.hobo.com/hobo_signs.htm Some of you might want to take a look at this, too: http://www.hobo.com/hobo_code.htm
     
  6. Dewey

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    Mother Theresa award
    [​IMG] That would be me, for my old coffee can suggestion. Seriously, I once rented a place in a large house that had been converted to four or five apartments. The basement was a shared laundry room with two or three washers and two or three dryers. It was never locked, and the entry was from the outside. A homeless guy found his way in. Behind the laundry room, there was easy access to the unfinished area around the furnace. With some scraps of carpet, he fixed himself up a bed by the furnace and slept there for a while. I never reported him because I thought he was harmless. But then he started shitting in the corner and leaving coffee cans full of shit and piss back there. Looking back on the situation now, I don't think I was being kind and laid-back so much as I was being lazy. That's no way to live. Even if the guy chooses that life, the fact that he's sunk to such a standard suggests he's sick and needs help. Call the cops or whatever and get him out of your carport. That's all you can do.
     
  7. Milhouse

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    One thing is clear: most of the respondents to this thread will not be in competition for any Mother Theresa awards...


    Hmm, I guess it is all about the metric with which we use to judge our actions. I'm a practical kind of guy, so I think the real competition is who can eliminate the freeloader with the least amount of effort and cost. In a northern climate, I say ice water would probably win. Pepper spray is a good alternative for a generalized solution applicable to a variety of climates.

    Whatever you do, don't cut out his vocal chords as you want him to be able to tell other bindlestiffs to stay away.
     
  8. philosophe

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    Get rid of this guy asap. Perhaps the local service agency for the homeless can help, but your best bet is the cops.
     
  9. Orsini

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    [​IMG] That would be me, for my old coffee can suggestion.
    As usual, there is plenty of bad karma to go around.
    Seriously, I once rented a place in a large house that had been converted to four or five apartments...It was never locked
    You need to secure this stuff. That is one of the ways there kind of problems will get started for you
    ...and the entry was from the outside. A homeless guy found his way in....
    Yes, I know the rest. I have lived it. I was a musician in the 60's so I know that life is not a Bambi movie. I already made a couple of suggestions that could possibly have a positive effect or at least get it off the OP's plate without turning him into a scumbag.
     
  10. Orsini

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    Hmm, I guess it is all about the metric with which we use to judge our actions. I'm a practical kind of guy, so I think the real competition is who can eliminate the freeloader with the least amount of effort and cost. In a northern climate, I say ice water would probably win. Pepper spray is a good alternative for a generalized solution applicable to a variety of climates.
    In California I expect that would be assault. The police might not be amused. And then the problem would be motivated to come back...
    Whatever you do, don't cut out his vocal chords as you want him to be able to tell other bindlestiffs to stay away.
    Just use one of those Hobo signs I showed you...
     
  11. Milhouse

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    In California I expect that would be assault. The police might not be amused. And then the problem would be motivated to come back...
    Just use one of those Hobo signs I showed you...


    Wow, glad I don't live in California. I prefer to be able to protect myself and my property.
     
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    Wow, glad I don't live in California. I prefer to be able to protect myself and my property.
    You can. You just got to have a good reason to do so and, generally, simple trespass is not enough to justify the use of force.
     
  14. bbaquiran

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    Perhaps also install an alarm system.
     
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    ^
    Not sure what the point of putting that link... that's not what anybody is talking about here. And, the savage, senseless killing of the homeless for no reason other than to satisfy some sick fetish (which, essentially, is what that link talks about) is certainly something new.

    There's a big difference between ensuring that a homeless man doesn't set up camp in your carport and setting him on fire... just because.
     
  17. Egdon Heath

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    ^There's a big difference between ensuring that a homeless man doesn't set up camp in your carport and setting him on fire... just because. There have been LOTS of killings of homeless people by sick individuals who do it because it's the easiest way to satisfy some sort of sick killing fetish without getting caught. That's not what anybody is talking about here. Not sure what the point of putting the link on this thread is, though... it's apples and oranges...
    You edited yourself before I could answer you. Originally, you asked if Orsini had voted Let It Slide. I don't know, but I did. Based on your pre-edited post, I'd be more afraid of you than the homeless guy.​
     
  18. rach2jlc

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    You edited yourself before I could answer you. Originally, you asked if Orsini had voted Let It Slide. I don't know, but I did. Based on your pre-edited post, I'd be more afraid of you than the homeless guy.​

    Oh, please could we be a little more melodramatic? You're acting like my original post was saying, "yee haa! let's burn us some homeless folk!" It wasn't, obviously. I edited my original post only because it wasn't clear in highlighting two points: 1) It's ridiculous and patronizing to post a link describing the savage and senseless murder of a homeless man on this thread, as though it has some correlation. 2) Voting "let it slide indefinitely" needs to be explained/justified, because I can't see AT ALL how you think it is a good idea. I certainly do NOT think violence is needed or justified, but letting a strange man who doesn't follow your requests or the commands of the police just keep sleeping in your carport seems a bit strange and inviting danger or problems for you and your family. Finally, if you think we are all such "savages" for advocating that some action (civil, adult, mature) be taken... then perhaps you should send the OP your address, so he can give it to the homeless man and set up camp at YOUR house.
     
  19. Orsini

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    ^ Not sure what the point of putting that link... that's not what anybody is talking about here. And, the savage, senseless killing of the homeless for no reason other than to satisfy some sick fetish (which, essentially, is what that link talks about) is certainly something new. There's a big difference between ensuring that a homeless man doesn't set up camp in your carport and setting him on fire... just because.
    Sounds like you've talked yourself into it... Got you all worked up, huh? Good. I'm a troll these days. When I get good enough, I intend to invade some forum and, over time, chase away the old guard and bend it to my will...
     
  20. Orsini

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    You edited yourself before I could answer you. Originally, you asked if Orsini had voted Let It Slide. I don't know, but I did. Based on your pre-edited post, I'd be more afraid of you than the homeless guy.​

    I don't remember. However, I believe I indicated very clearly that that the fellow had to go, somehow.
     

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