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HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.

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  1. GothamRed

    GothamRed Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, Pliny. I like the Chelseas - Edwardian? Your tie and jacket seem to resolve too closely in pattern in the photo, but closer up I like them.
     
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  2. FlyingMonkey

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    I agree with a lot of your critique of this fit, and I would never say that they are 'necessary' but tie bars and pins have a long history and are no more affected than pocket squares or boutonnieres, and certainly less affected than collar pins, bracelets, and many other #menswear accessories. I generally think they work better with narrower and knit ties in particular, but that's just my personal preference, as is my love of mid-century silver in this area.
     
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  3. Pliny

    Pliny Well-Known Member

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    ^^^ Nice shirt, tie, Jacket combo Pliny![/quo
    Thanks!
     
  4. conradwu

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    They do indeed have a history of function in traditional menswear and serve more purpose than most of the accessories you stated above.

    While pocket squares have uses (in theory), they are no more necessary than bracelets and to a certain extend, neckties.

    Tie bars do serve a purpose in that they prevent the tie from swinging freely. One could wear it, but to me, I find it difficult to see it "working" well with an outfit unless paired with simple color tones. Unlike the necktie or square, where it's easy to wear in order to compliment an outfit, the tie bar sticks out as it's far more noticeable due to it's reflective texture.

    I'm not saying don't wear it or that it has no purpose, but rather that it looks, more often than not, out of place and attracts unnecessary attention to the viewer.
     
  5. EliodA

    EliodA Well-Known Member

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    I like this tie.
    Nice suit!
     
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  6. Pliny

    Pliny Well-Known Member

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    The tie bar's at a higher level of affectation than the square IMO
    not a fan of jewellrry on men, no offence to anyone, I know a lot like it. And a square is just exponenentially hsrder to get rite. I like that challenge
     
  7. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    Depends entirely on how you wear it. It works best when worn lower, slanted, and with a knit tie, like this:
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  8. FlyingMonkey

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    I agree on the knit tie thing (as above). However, I really don't know where this SF convention of slanting tie-bars came from. I suspect it is simply a reaction against the GQ promotion of tie bars worn straight, even though this is more traditionally 'correct' and tie bars are actually designed to be worn this way in most cases. A slight angle gives a hint of studied carelessness, but if you do it as much as you are in this picture, then I think you start to move into trying a little too hard territory. But then this is all simply a matter of individual preference.
     
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  9. conradwu

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    No idea. I just don't like excessive blingz. As long as one doesn't wear it with a 3 piece, everything is fair game.
     
  10. Monkeyface

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    Nope, I slant it because more of the bar gets hidden that way, while still keeping it at the right height. It makes it a little more subtle. Also, when you put it straight it looks like you've stood in front of the mirror and tried to get a perfectly straight angle. Moreover, the angle of the bar works better with the angle of the lapels this way.
     
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    So you don't like the idea that you've spent time trying to get it straight, but you don't mind looking like you've spent time lining it up with your lapels? As I said, it's clearly personal taste, whatever justifications we may come up with... [​IMG]
     
  12. FlyingMonkey

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    Quite. Although a tie-pin can be worn with a waistcoat, but they're really not very common these days. Of course a tie-pin is essential for certain styles of cravat or ascot but they are even less common.
     
  13. Monkeyface

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    Haha, I understand how it may look. It's more of a coincidental benefit. I discovered it when I put my tie bar on one morning, but it wasn't quite straight. I liked the look of it, and have been wearing it like that ever since.
     
  14. mothon

    mothon Well-Known Member

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    From dinner with my lady this evening.

    Should I be using starch on my shirts when going tie less? How do I get my collars to stand higher and the shirt not to fold.

    Also my hips appear to be very wide in these pictures. I think it is from a combination of the short SC and the fuller cut in the thighs of my pants. I also need to learn how to wear a pocket square I always feel like it looks sloppy when I wear one.


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  15. coxaca

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    I think the problem is definitely in the jacket, not the trousers. The jacket, while sitting well on your chest and shoulders, is simply too short for you - in the sleeves, button stance, and in its overall length. This is what's making your hips look wide. The eye is drawn down to the base of the jacket, where BOOM - presenting: Hips!

    Apparently all comments about family are off-limits, otherwise I would be paying you a very big compliment regarding your lady.
     
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    Get this Oxxford clothes fresco sports coat today from the USA. Fit is very good. As you see there is a little bit work for my tailor with the seams of the pockets.
    Color of the tie is not that bright. The colors are very realistic on the detail foto with shirt, tie, watch and sports coat.

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  17. Holdfast

    Holdfast Well-Known Member

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  18. twistoffat

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    Don its often difficult for a big man to dress well, but I find your efforts to be good. I like this outfit. Is it just me or do those side pockets look very big?
     
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  19. RDiaz

    RDiaz Well-Known Member

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    Damn, I was going to wear a very similar cream linen suit - now I'll have to be extra imaginative, maybe with some outside pics [​IMG]

    Nice ensemble.
     
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  20. upr_crust

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    As it is now August, pincord is in prime season, and as it is predicted to rain later today, rumpled pincord, in need of the ministrations of a dry cleaner, is a perfect choice for the day.

    Suit - Haspel
    Shirt - Allen Solly
    Tie - no brand name - picked up at a local discounter for under $10
    PS - Alain Figaret
    Shoes - BB Peals

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