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HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.

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  1. the shah

    the shah Well-Known Member

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    nm. cdtroll not worth engaging
     
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  2. DLester

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    [so is the MC stuff, but don't tell....]
     
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  3. patrickBOOTH

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    Why don't the mods do that? Have a WAYWRN where only certain people can post and discuss. Fuck the 99%, let em' whine.
     
  4. in stitches

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    trini tried that with the WAYWRN all starts thread. good idea, but it kinda petered out.
     
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  5. gdl203

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    I truly apologize because I don't have any constructive criticism to offer here but ...

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. ethanm

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    Alrite, [insert fascist/communist dictator]!
     
  7. sugarbutch

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    Wishing a happy vernal equinox for all, be they SW&D or MC.

    [​IMG]

    Also, I liked much of what KingJulien posted from the SW&D HOF thread. But, of course, many of them fit within the spectrum of MC, so that's not surprising.
     
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    I absolutely agree. What I am saying is that it's not just standard MC WAYWRN without the tie or either the North-eastern US or Italian-style upper class casual that is affected by so many here. And yes, I tend towards the 'heritage / workwear influenced' stuff when I am not on university business. Mind you, I do actually also have a smallholding with a barn, vegetables, fruit trees and chickens so some of the stuff is also being worn functionally as actual workwear. But I don't really have the lifestyle to accomodate the more radical or couture type of fashion clothing, unless I dressed this way to work, to which I have no fundamental objection but it would require an entirely new wardrobe and sense of myself... so a pretty tall order.
     
  9. F. Corbera

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    FTFY.
    In my little SF advice column, one of the things that I poorly try get across is that it is useful for beginners to examine on what point of the informal/formal spectrum their life lies, and taking cues from that. I feel (without being able to offer convincing evidence) that the current MC crowd might benefit from a toning down of the level of formality in their coat and tie looks. You, in contrast, have thought about this. More power to you...which takes me to...
    ...that's exactly it. When I see those SW&D "fits" in suburban back lawns or in the homes of parents, it really doesn't work for me. [​IMG][​IMG] The MC crowd has its own similar sins arife, of course.
     
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  10. F. Corbera

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    I guess this would be a reverse-cherry-pick?

    1. Jamieson is a red herring. That was an old "MC" fit cross-posted over there. He can basically do no wrong, but I'm not a fan of the hat...which is as ubiquitous in your selections as are...oddly...raincoats.

    2. The guy with the slick hair and peacoat looks suspiciously like a Sartorialist pic. Is it really a SW&D member or even an SF member?

    3. Berlin Report always looks great, which I hope any mens shop owner would. (There's that hat again, though.) A lot of what he wears falls into the category that Monkey and I were discussing.

    Everyone else that you posted looks either really awful, or if not, has a look that if found on a dude approaching 30 or passing it, would look rather unfortunate. From tween to twenties, awful to great. Beyond that, I don't want to see a mktitsworth with fades indicating the contents of his front pockets.

    Is this really the best that you could find? And what's with the raincoats...is humidity an issue in SW&D these days?

    :)
     
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  11. F. Corbera

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    Well, aside from the post that comes from MC, the Sart pic, and BerlinR, I disagree.

    Would you really go from CBD to a black bowtie wider than your face, a trenchcoat, and a hipster hat?
     
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    I think the best example of someone that bridges both worlds is PT Williams.
     
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  13. F. Corbera

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    By "both worlds," you mean both aquatic and terrestrial, correct?
     
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  14. F. Corbera

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    I'm guessing that this was a much-appreciated fit in SW&D. I can understand why.

    But, the juxtaposition of the clothes with the wall-to-wall carpeting signals something awry to me.

    Again, I'm not trying to beat down on all the various SW&D looks. If the guys who wear them like them, great.

    I just don't see why it is presumed that there is a greater mastery of what can be called "casual" from that forvm-specific sub-culture, as in, "MC guys can learn a lot from SW&D guys."

    I have no doubt "MC guys" can learn a lot about what "SW&D guys" choose to wear by looking at their forum discussions and pics.

    Then what? Coat and tie by day, trenchcoat, stacked painted-on jeans, and little hat by night? When you're 35? And when you're an MC guy who isn't always successful with coat and tie in the first place?
     
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    No, I wouldn't, but I think most of those looks are either nice or within shouting distance of nice. They all push fit toward the fashion end of the spectrum, and some pieces (like that bowtie) are just wrong, but they don't offend me. I don't personally see the appeal of any trenchcoat, so I kind of withhold judgment on those. Any non-ballcap hat is likely viewed as an affectation, but having grown up with a number of mod-loving friends, the stingy brim likewise doesn't bother me. I wouldn't wear it anymore, but I can accept it.

    So, while I wouldn't go from CBD to most of these looks, I suspect that CBD isn't within their desired range, either. The disconnect that I think you're pointing out between what someone like gdl wears during the week and what he wears over the weekend is, as he has indicated, an artificial one because he's required to be CBD. I don't know how to explain the schizophrenia of some others other than that they do view clothing as costume, and they dig the option of having a different persona each day.
     
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    There's good medication for that now. Ask HF.
     
  17. F. Corbera

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    I am not being clear. CBD-gdl203 going into his telephone booth at C.O.B. Friday, ripping it off, and emerging in Junya for the weekend is not a disconnect. It's a clean break that makes sense for someone who would rather not wear coat and tie at all.

    Similarly, when Parker goes to meeting one day in an NsM suit and a Cappeli tie, and the next day in some black/gray designer rig, he's not doing casualized classic dress. He is simply in an environement and has the means to dress as he likes without penalty.

    Coat and tie has its own casual look that goes along with it. There are points of overlap, like Monkey and I discussed, with things, brands, etc. worn by current SW&D denizens...but I don't see it with the types of examples posted that launched this discussion.
     
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    Joking aside, I think you are really missing the point here. MC guys can learn a lot from SW&D guys when it comes to casual dress. If an MCer never ever wears casual clothes and dresses dandy to the coffee shop on Sunday morning, good for him and this doesn't apply. But the MC casual thread is pretty obvious evidence that most MCers (there are a number of exceptions) don't have a clue when they step out of the fairly documented and crowd-moderated boundaries of MC clothing (and I put myself circa 3 years ago in that group). I do not think that the SW&D necessarily have strong ground to criticize good MC/CBD fits that do not fit the context of their lives - some do and give it some thought, but there are many knee-jerk reactions there too (just like here)

    I don't understand your repetitive points about the Jekyll/Hide nature of dressing business and casual, for a few reasons: (a) maybe I'm jaded because of where I live but I see strictly nothing wrong with a 40 or 50 year old wearing casual clothes, even kunk-style all RO fits - I actually find that pretty cool, and the older the cooler; (b) you yourself do that as evidenced by your own casual fits so how can you decry it as impossible or improbably. You're over 35, right?

    edit: I understand your points a little better now with the post above
     
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    I can definitely see this. If some of these older eccentric guys existed in the burbs, it wouldn't look right.
     
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    +1
     
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