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Highest-Quality Shoe Report Card (Lattanzi, Bontoni, Lobb Kiton, Berluti)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Englishtea, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. josepidal

    josepidal Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit confused by a "fit" category for bespoke shoes?
     
  2. ABALO

    ABALO Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the Forvm, Englishtea. I'd rank Vass #1 in the price/quality category. I am not too impressed with Botoni, don't know why you rank it so highly.

    Yop... I have to agree with that. Why Bontoni more than Bestetti in Milan, Scafora in Napoli or Ugolini in Firenze ??
    And I wouldn't rank Berluti so high as for the leather quality, either...
     
  3. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    The Iammatt mentioned Stefano Branchini as a value alternative.

    There's also Stefano Bemer.

    Ugolini not Branchini. Yes, he is cheaper, and better than most of those on the last, but that is just my initial impression as my shoes are not done.
     
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    nmoraitis Well-Known Member

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    Damn, that is one ugly pair of shoes!
     
  5. johninla

    johninla Well-Known Member

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    i really appreciated the site and the effort. just terrific. i, too, was wondering why EG didn't make the cut.
    thank you, again,
    john
     
  6. well-kept

    well-kept Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one whose "troll-dar" is going off?

    More than 46 pairs and "trust me" coupled with "impressive to say the least". Why am I put in mind of an infamous ransom note claiming to come from "a small foreign faction"?

    Gentleman's wager that photos somehow never appear.
     
  7. ABALO

    ABALO Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and very expensive as well for a "sunny and dry day only" pair...[​IMG]
     
  8. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    Like other posters, I think the OP is way overrating Bontoni. I have a pair of Bontoni double monks. While I like them and wear them quite a bit, they are nowhere near Edward Green in terms of quality for the reasons mentioned. Possibly around C&J Handgrade and Weston. The shoes were killing me under the balls of my feet until I inserted two gel pads there -- I think they may lack a cork bed.
     
  9. SGladwell

    SGladwell Well-Known Member

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    i really appreciated the site and the effort. just terrific. i, too, was wondering why EG didn't make the cut.

    Well, some of us think that EG's are pretty heavily overrated on the fora. They're nice, but no nicer than a bevy of other shoemakers. I've also had durability issues with every single pair I've owned. I can't say that about Allen Edmonds or even Gucci, let alone Lattanzi or Reiter.

    I don't know about Bontoni, because I've never to my knowledge seen a pair. Berluti...let's just say they will never find a place below my pants.
     
  10. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Well-Known Member

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    I have found them to be way above average in quality myself.

    It's too bad you dismiss Berluti. They make a fine shoe as well even if not constructed to as high a standard as the better brands. I've had several pairs for six years now with regular usage and they are holding up very well. Their bespoke is very high quality as well. Berluti is a more stylish shoe for special occasions in my opinion.
     
  11. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I have found them to be way above average in quality myself.

    It's too bad you dismiss Berluti. They make a fine shoe as well even if not constructed to as high a standard as the better brands. I've had several pairs for six years now with regular usage and they are holding up very well. Their bespoke is very high quality as well. Berluti is a more stylish shoe for special occasions in my opinion.

    Their bespoke is just a shoe made in the StefanoBi factory. It is not real bespoke.
     
  12. RJman

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    Their bespoke is just a shoe made in the StefanoBi factory. It is not real bespoke.

    As Justine Frischmann sang, "Here we go again..." [​IMG]

    To be fair, certain friends of the Pythia allegedly still are able to get bespoke. At any rate, AF, the bespoke examples I saw in the rue Marbeuf Berluti store a few weekends ago were OK, but they didn't look much different from the Berluti RTW and certainly didn't seem as majestic as the Lobb Paris bespoke samples.

    I do know of one fellow who never seems to admit publicly owning Berluti bespoke who says that his one pair of Berluti bespoke is marvelously beautiful. He never mentions it on the forums, though. [​IMG]
     
  13. fritzl

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    Ludwig Reiter is my only Austrian shoe. Not too crazy about it. I will take photos when I get back to the City next week. I promise not to do it on and funky carpets![​IMG]

    LR is nothing to get crazy about. But as I had recognized you prefer the Italian and English style. So at least JL St. James is one of the best choices.
     
  14. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    As Justine Frischmann sang, "Here we go again..." [​IMG]

    To be fair, certain friends of the Pythia allegedly still are able to get bespoke. At any rate, AF, the bespoke examples I saw in the rue Marbeuf Berluti store a few weekends ago were OK, but they didn't look much different from the Berluti RTW and certainly didn't seem as majestic as the Lobb Paris bespoke samples.

    I do know of one fellow who never seems to admit publicly owning Berluti bespoke who says that his one pair of Berluti bespoke is marvelously beautiful. He never mentions it on the forums, though. [​IMG]

    That is correct. Apparently some people still do rate a true bespoke shoe. I have also spoken to the owner you mention, and as you say, he does rave about them. He concedes that they are too flashy for real life though.
     
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    I'm a bit confused by a "fit" category for bespoke shoes?

    Why?
     
  16. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    Austrian = Saint Crispin's, perhaps?

    St. Crispins headquarter is in Vienna/Austria.

    The shoes are made in Romania, either their bespoke. Meaning the craftsmen derive from German and Hungerian descendants.

    I have to admit that some Austrian manufacturies have their RTW's produced their.
    The bespoke are produced in their origin workshops.

    You knew that, didn't you.
     
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    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    Nice to have a shoe connoisseur in the forum:)

    A connoisseur for what? [​IMG]
     
  18. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Well-Known Member

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    No. The bespoke pairs I saw in London were the real deal. They were also quite beautiful.
     
  19. LabelKing

    LabelKing Well-Known Member

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    I believe Berluti has an actual bespoke operation with lasts and all.

    Unlike the controversial Vass.
     
  20. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I believe Berluti has an actual bespoke operatiom with lasts and all.

    Unlike the controversial Vass.


    No. The bespoke pairs I saw in London were the real deal. They were also quite beautiful.

    My understanding is that these things were true but are no longer.
     
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