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High End Cologne

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NewYorkIslander, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. EBugatti

    EBugatti Well-Known Member

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    Although now mostly marketing (as the differences have blurred substantially, and there really is no absolute standard anyway) one thing that did drive price was the concetration of the scent.

    - Eau de cologne (splash on) was the weakest
    - Eau de cologne spray was deemed slightly better because the sealed container preserved the scent longer than a bottle that was openable
    - Eau de toilette was slightly stronger
    - Eau de parfum stronger still (usually only for women)
    - Parfum or essence de parfum is most concentrated (usually sold in very small sizes) (women only).

    But take these with a big pinch of salt as lines are VERY blurry.
     
  2. GoldenTribe

    GoldenTribe Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is right. I like to mix up the price range from Creed down to Hermes. I also have a bottle from a store in Red Bank, NJ that was developed by the owner and bears his name (with an "ino" on the end for a little more "sophistication" and that ran me two bills. They pump it into the store and then you gotta have it. Got a few compliments on it. (I won't mention the name unless you ask me because I don't think you're supposed to shill on the site.) So the point is you can run from $200 to $85, depending on what you like. I seem to never use a bottle up--still nursing my Helmut Lang Cuiron from about 5 years ago. THAT one is a killer! No longer available, though, damn it.

    It's not often you get to talk about Hermes as the lower end of a spectrum...
    (Is Creed really that much more expensive? I know very little about colognes, though I did see 250mL of "Spice & Wool" for $550 earlier in this thread)
     
  3. Coldcava

    Coldcava Well-Known Member

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    Although now mostly marketing (as the differences have blurred substantially, and there really is no absolute standard anyway) one thing that did drive price was the concetration of the scent.

    - Eau de cologne (splash on) was the weakest
    - Eau de cologne spray was deemed slightly better because the sealed container preserved the scent longer than a bottle that was openable
    - Eau de toilette was slightly stronger
    - Eau de parfum stronger still (usually only for women)
    - Parfum or essence de parfum is most concentrated (usually sold in very small sizes) (women only).

    But take these with a big pinch of salt as lines are VERY blurry.


    Thanks for that.. Ill add that to my 'what I learned on SF' list. Always wondered at the potency of various scents, never knew there was such a heiarchy.
     
  4. Coldcava

    Coldcava Well-Known Member

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    It's not often you get to talk about Hermes as the lower end of a spectrum...
    (Is Creed really that much more expensive? I know very little about colognes, though I did see 250mL of "Spice & Wool" for $550 earlier in this thread)


    550? I haven't seen that at Ulta/sephora last i looked.
     
  5. Merlino

    Merlino Well-Known Member

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    Although now mostly marketing (as the differences have blurred substantially, and there really is no absolute standard anyway) one thing that did drive price was the concetration of the scent.

    - Eau de cologne (splash on) was the weakest
    - Eau de cologne spray was deemed slightly better because the sealed container preserved the scent longer than a bottle that was openable
    - Eau de toilette was slightly stronger
    - Eau de parfum stronger still
    - Parfum or essence de parfum is most concentrated (usually sold in very small sizes)

    But take these with a big pinch of salt as lines are VERY blurry.


    FTFY
     
  6. Thomas

    Thomas Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that.. Ill add that to my 'what I learned on SF' list. Always wondered at the potency of various scents, never knew there was such a heiarchy.
    Most scents are offered in just one strength - the standard one being EdT. Some houses offer multiple concentrations of a scent - generally Chanel, Guerlain, maybe Patou, Hermes. Among them, Chanel and Guerlain typically tweak the formula between concentrations - Jicky in EdT is noticeably different from Jicky parfum, according to those who wear both. I can say that Chanel Cuir de Russie is better in parfum than EdT: it's like the difference in listening to a symphony in person, versus over a radio. Just a bit of pointless minutia there. More minutia: some niche houses don't offer Edt - Le Labo and Ormonde Jayne only do up EdP or even parfum strengths, as far as I've seen. Both houses make some fantastic scents.
     
  7. Beaune Head

    Beaune Head Well-Known Member

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    Some makers, including Ormonde Jayne, Frederic Malle, and The Different Company, offer a sampler set of their entire product line. You can keep the manly ones for yourself and give the girly stuff to your...girl...

    It's a good way to find out what you like without making a serious investment.
     
  8. designprofessor

    designprofessor Well-Known Member

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    Chandler Burr, Luca Turin and Basenotes will all give you plenty of info into the mechanics and ingredients of scents.
    Despite what is in them an inexpensive brand may smell great on you and last a long time, and something very expensive might fade within the hour.

    Try 'em till you find one you like.
     
  9. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Well-Known Member

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    The Dollar Tree carries any number of copy-cat colognes.
    If the difference isn't there for one's nose, then the no reason to go for the high end stuff.
     
  10. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Well-Known Member

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    I like what I like, for whatever the reasons. Summertime I wear Virgin Island Water (love the coconut/lime combo, and will even wear it once or twice in winter for the reminder), Green Irish Tweed and Tabarome fall into winter, Vetiver in the spring into summer, and sparingly during the summer, and then I'll throw in Millisme Imperial all year round. I just bought the new Creed from rioni on B&S and like that a lot too, as well as the TF Tuscan Leather. Having previously compared it to Dunhill, I now recognize the difference. The TF is still on me a bit after a day at work, 2 hours at the gym, and a shower. Maybe its EDP? I'll add the TF to my fall/winter rotation for sure and the new Creed into all except summer. Almost all (except two) I bought from splits right here on SF. This is a great place to try out scents you may not want to shell out the big bucks for.

    Soime great replies here so far.
     

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