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Hickey freeman suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by BigRed, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. JesseJB

    JesseJB Well-Known Member

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    Found one for $500 at the Rack. The trouser waist seems to be roomy in the leg and thigh but then go waaaay in at the waist.
     
  2. Superfluous

    Superfluous Well-Known Member

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    I'll put it this way. If you're looking for a high quality, traditional, semi boring fit, suit that can be bought for cheap... I'd look for Hickey Freeman on sale.
     
  3. jim10

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    If you hate pleats as much as I do, good luck finding one of their suits with a plain front.
     
  4. Fred H.

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    If you hate pleats as much as I do, good luck finding one of their suits with a plain front.

    tailors can remove pleats. It isn't cheap, but it can be done.
     
  6. jefferyd

    jefferyd Well-Known Member

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    The article doesn't mention the fact that the designer who was responsible for developing the fits for the Phineas Cole line (among others) is now also with HF.

    Just sayin.
     
  7. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Well-Known Member

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    I just saw one at nordstrom rack. HF limited collection navy originally $995 for $495. Thoughts?
     
  8. Felix Krull

    Felix Krull Well-Known Member

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    My opinion is that any OTR suit is crap! With access to dirt-cheap tailors in Asia, not to mention the quality (but pricey) tailoring available here in the States, you can get a made-to-measure suit for less than or equal to OTR that will be far superior to any mass-produced OTR product.

    When people buy OTR they do so because they a) care more about the label than anything else or b) want to justify their previous behavior by continuing to do what they've always done.

    Hickey Freeman, Canali, Armani, Brioni, or ravioli are just labels produced for the masses who value goods by price and not worth.
     
  9. intent

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    My opinion is that any OTR suit is crap! With access to dirt-cheap tailors in Asia, not to mention the quality (but pricey) tailoring available here in the States, you can get a made-to-measure suit for less than or equal to OTR that will be far superior to any mass-produced OTR product.

    When people buy OTR they do so because they a) care more about the label than anything else or b) want to justify their previous behavior by continuing to do what they've always done.

    Hickey Freeman, Canali, Armani, Brioni, or ravioli are just labels produced for the masses who value goods by price and not worth.

    My bad. I was unaware that there are different levels of tailors and suitmakers and that sometimes companies may elect to cut costs and quality at the same time.
     
  10. Fred H.

    Fred H. Well-Known Member

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    My opinion is that any OTR suit is crap!
    I'm not in agreement with this statement at all. I am almost a PERFECT 46L. The HF Madison fits me extremely well, with only minor modifications. The suits are very well made and can often be found at very generous discounts. Now if you are NOT near a standard size, then your opinion makes sense. But for many of the rest of us it does not.

    Oh, and BTW, I placed THREE orders with one of those "dirt-cheap" tailors in Asia for custom shirts and was exceedingly disappointed. You'd think after my repeated (four) face-to-face meetings with their tailor they could make me a shirt that fits. Nope. What a waste of time/money.
     
  11. Fred H.

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    I just saw one at nordstrom rack. HF limited collection navy originally $995 for $495. Thoughts?

    Pass it by. HF Limited is made for the Rack. Half-canvassed. Still made in Rochester, just not to the regular HF full-canvassed standards.
     
  12. Felix Krull

    Felix Krull Well-Known Member

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    I'm not in agreement with this statement at all. I am almost a PERFECT 46L. The HF Madison fits me extremely well, with only minor modifications. The suits are very well made and can often be found at very generous discounts. Now if you are NOT near a standard size, then your opinion makes sense. But for many of the rest of us it does not.

    Oh, and BTW, I placed THREE orders with one of those "dirt-cheap" tailors in Asia for custom shirts and was exceedingly disappointed. You'd think after my repeated (four) face-to-face meetings with their tailor they could make me a shirt that fits. Nope. What a waste of time/money.


    There is no such thing as a standard size. Even your own body is not perfectly proportioned on each side, so why would you think that a mass-produced garment intended for a pattern that doesn't exist in reality could fit better or even equally well as a garment that is tailored just for you. A made-to-measure suit, particularly one purchased from an American concern, is going to fit better than any OTR suit. That's not opinion that's fact.
     
  13. sartorialism

    sartorialism Well-Known Member

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    My opinion is that any OTR suit is crap! With access to dirt-cheap tailors in Asia, not to mention the quality (but pricey) tailoring available here in the States, you can get a made-to-measure suit for less than or equal to OTR that will be far superior to any mass-produced OTR product.

    When people buy OTR they do so because they a) care more about the label than anything else or b) want to justify their previous behavior by continuing to do what they've always done.

    Hickey Freeman, Canali, Armani, Brioni, or ravioli are just labels produced for the masses who value goods by price and not worth.



    Total crap.
     
  14. Klobber

    Klobber Well-Known Member

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    My opinion is that any OTR suit is crap! With access to dirt-cheap tailors in Asia, not to mention the quality (but pricey) tailoring available here in the States, you can get a made-to-measure suit for less than or equal to OTR that will be far superior to any mass-produced OTR product.

    When people buy OTR they do so because they a) care more about the label than anything else or b) want to justify their previous behavior by continuing to do what they've always done.

    Hickey Freeman, Canali, Armani, Brioni, or ravioli are just labels produced for the masses who value goods by price and not worth.



    I agree with you in principle. However, MTM is not necessarily the perfect choice either. I blew $2K on an MTM piece of shit before (I was in Paris for 2 weeks and got carried away with my spending).

    Reality, if you cant find a good MTM tailor, then your probably better off with an OTR suit. A good MTM tailor - thats a different matter! Finding this good tailor is also another matter! OTR is convienient for the masses - is that not what our society is about? Convenience?
     
  15. magogian12345

    magogian12345 Well-Known Member

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    Are Brooks Brother suits on par with HF suits or is one far in away better than the other?

    The Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece is roughly on par with a HF suit.
     
  16. Johnny24

    Johnny24 Well-Known Member

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    I cannot discuss that at this time.
    I think their suits are great quality and they can be had for quite cheap if you know where to look. You can usually find them for much less than Brooks and they are equal to, if not better than the Golden Fleece line, IMO. Outside of Oxxford, and English American, I don't think you will find better USA made suits than HF or BB GF's.

    I have a Vanguard line that I got off the B/S section, it is charcoal, 130's Loro Piana with a ticket pocket, and working cuffs, flat front pants and a fantastic overall fit. I only had to have the pants let out a touch and taken up a tad for "no break". The suit had never been worn and I had it for $300. I get more positive responses for that suit than any other I own. I actually had it on when I visited the HF store on Madison Ave and Richard (the manager) loved it, he told me it was one of the best HF's he has seen. If I died tomorrow, I would be buried in it.

    The Rack usually has a good amount if you catch it on the right time of year, I picked up a Madison glen plaid from there that was down to $750 with another 50% off that due to a clearance.

    Gilt also has HF on there at least 4 times a year, they always look like the Vanguard line as they are flat front and trimmer looking. They usually go for $300-$400ish on there and they are not the LTD line, which is the outlet brand (even still not a bad suit for $300 compared to what you see at retail "sales").
     
  17. intfxdx

    intfxdx Well-Known Member

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    How are HF suits compared to Ralph lauren polo label ? (made in italy)
     
  18. Grigory

    Grigory Well-Known Member

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    Quality of PRL may be a bit lower than HF (fused vs canvassed and so on). But PRL fit is awesome! and HF fit is rather boring...

    How are HF suits compared to Ralph lauren polo label ? (made in italy)
     
  19. Grigory

    Grigory Well-Known Member

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    To my untrained eye HF silhouette is almost similar to Canali - strong shoulders and not too slim. With the similar quality HF will be cheaper.

    I've been thinking about buying a Canali suit but just recently took a look at a Hickey Freeman. So I was kind of curious as to how these two lines compare to each other...
     
  20. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Well-Known Member

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    Pass it by. HF Limited is made for the Rack. Half-canvassed. Still made in Rochester, just not to the regular HF full-canvassed standards.

    +1 Thanks! I had a feeling it was too good to be true.
     

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