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Help me buy a computer

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by unjung, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. javyn

    javyn Well-Known Member

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  2. whiteslashasian

    whiteslashasian Well-Known Member

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    woah

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  3. javyn

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    You are my hero haha. So hope this unlocks to a Deneb w/ L3 cache! If so, my Dad's getting a Propus [​IMG] Apparently my Gigabyte mobo has ACC so, fingers crossed. Fortuitous, the WD Caviar Blue 500 GB I have selected is on sale today only for 39.99 as opposed to 55.99.
     
  4. whiteslashasian

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    You are my hero haha. So hope this unlocks to a Deneb w/ L3 cache! If so, my Dad's getting a Propus [​IMG] Apparently my Gigabyte mobo has ACC so, fingers crossed.

    Fortuitous, the WD Caviar Blue 500 GB I have selected is on sale today only for 39.99 as opposed to 55.99.


    Nice deal on the HDD. It's tempting...

    Remember, there's no guarantee you'll get a clamped down Deneb that you can unlock and remain stable.

    It's still a no lose situation as you're spending the same money, could possibly get an upgraded proc for yourself, and either way your dad gets a better machine than you originally expected.
     
  5. AR_Six

    AR_Six Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is the point of spending extra money on a case?
     
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    What exactly is the point of spending extra money on a case?
    1) looks cool. 2) extra air flow, either from increased fans or better layout. For example: many antec cases have separate compartments for power supplies. This keeps main components (videocard/cpu) cooler. Also reduces noise. 3) easier install .. better cases have more efficient layouts and such. 4) looks cool. 5) additional options like more harddrive bays or front ports 6) looks cool. 7) some cases are designed to be super quiet. I'm a firm believer that Antec makes some of the best computer cases on the market. Check out their website. They have some awesome vidoes showing you the "technology" they have implemented in their cases. For example: http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NA== .. sexy as fuck case.
     
  7. javyn

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    Money on a case is well spent b/c it can last longer than any component in there. I expect to be using my case and power supply for about forever.
     
  8. whiteslashasian

    whiteslashasian Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, it all depends on what you want. If you only want a small box that has ok airflow for a fairly basic system (1 HDD, 1 optical, maybe a small discrete GPU etc) then there's no need to spend a lot on a case.

    However for certain applications you may want more airflow for heavy overclocking, space for RAID Array HDD's, separate compartments for components to isolate heat generation, enough space for add-on cards or some kind of dual GPU set up etc.

    I usually go for Lian Li cases as I really like the clean, brushed aluminum look. They usually have good airflow, and can fit what I need. They aren't the quietest or coolest case around, but they're fine at that while looking very nice.
     
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    Money on a case is well spent b/c it can last longer than any component in there. I expect to be using my case and power supply for about forever.

    +1...I also have the Antec 300, and it's built like a tank.
     
  10. unjung

    unjung Well-Known Member

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    You guys are geeking out too hard for me... I just want to replace this piece of shit I have now that freezes all the time (I think because it's getting too hot).

    How about this:

    Antec Sonata III Quiet Mid Tower w/ EarthWatts 500W, eSATA
    AMD Phenomâ„¢ II X4 925 2.8GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3)
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Cooler
    Mushkin XP3-10666 Blackline DDR3 SDRAM, 4GB Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2GB)
    Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA II w/ 32MB Cache
    LG Super-Multi 22x DVD Writer, SATA w/ Lightscribe, Black
    Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1,150rpm Silent Case Fan
    Asus M4A785TD-V EVO w/ Radeon HD 4200, DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, Hybrid CrossFireX, HDMI

    I keep sticking with Memory Express because they'll build the thing for me... I can do everything but I hate putting heat sinks on processors and all that crap.
     
  11. unjung

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    Okay, NCIX offers a system builder app as well:

    AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
    ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo 785G Socket AM3 DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 3PCI Video Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard
    Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit
    Antec Sonata III Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 500W 120MM Fan
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro REV.2 CPU Heatsink Cooler LGA1366 LGA1156 LGA775 AM2 AM3 W/ 92MM Fan
    Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
    LG GH22NS50 Black 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM

    This system is about $100 more though, mostly because they don't have a crappier Phenom II X4 available. They also charge $20 more for the same case.

    Do I really need quad-core? Can I even use quad-core? How much faster is quad-core than dual-core?
     
  12. unjung

    unjung Well-Known Member

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    Brief research indicates quad-core is unnecessary.
     
  13. butterflystyle

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    Brief research indicates quad-core is unnecessary.

    According to who?

    I use my quad core every single day.
     
  14. unjung

    unjung Well-Known Member

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    According to who?

    I use my quad core every single day.


    A few Google searches. Later I discovered that a few apps I want to use will in fact use it, as will the next Half Life, which is about the only game I care about. And I found a better deal on a 3.2 ghz quad-core, so went with that.

    I placed the order today but was about 30 minutes too late to pick the machine up, so I'll get it tomorrow. They price matched Newegg and NCIX.

    Antec Sonata III Quiet Mid Tower w/ EarthWatts 500W, eSATA
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Cooler
    Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA II w/ 32MB Cache
    LG Super-Multi 22x DVD Writer, SATA w/ Lightscribe, Black
    Asus M4A785TD-V EVO w/ Radeon HD 4200, DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394,
    AMD Phenomâ„¢ II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3)
    Mushkin XP3-10666 Blackline DDR3 SDRAM, 4GB Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2GB)
     
  15. fashionlover2513

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    I used to be okay with this stuff but all the new processors and marketing names are confusing. Here's what I have priced out. I do a bit of image editing, a tiny bit of sound and video editing, watch movies, and might play TF2.



    This comes out to around $750 CAD. Is this going to be okay? Am I making any obvious mistakes? Anything that is going to be replaced by a new version immediately?


    Not bad setup actually. Price can be lowered though.
     
  16. uvmboi13

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    Get a Mac or else you won't get laid.
     
  17. whiteslashasian

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    Damn son, building the machine is my favorite part.

    It sounds like you ended up with a pretty decent machine. Let me point out though, if you plan on playing the next Half Life, you will definitely need a discrete graphics card. That can wait for the time being though.
     
  18. unjung

    unjung Well-Known Member

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    So here's how this went down: went to the store, they price matched all the other internet sites I found, they suggested not buying the CPU or case fans for now, they did suggest buying a graphics card so I got a Radeon 5750 (I think) for about $150, they mounted the CPU on the mobo and I assembled the rest of the system.

    Total cost was around $800. $650 including tax until the graphics card came along.

    Thing is damn fast. Of course I am well past the point where now it's the hard drive that makes things slow... I'm beginning to feel like I should have bought a faster HD.
     
  19. javyn

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    Unless you get a SSD or Sata III HD, I don't think you'll see a noticeable difference in HDDs.
     
  20. Ace Rimmer

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    they did suggest buying a graphics card so I got a Radeon 5750 (I think) for about $150

    Radeon 5750 or 5770? If the latter, you got a good deal as most 5770s go for $170 or so. Even if it was a 5750 it's still not a bad deal. I think you will like having the video card (either one) because you're at the sweet spot in price/performance.
     

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