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Has anyone given up on their plan A in life, and have accepted plan B or C?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by zillka, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. Flambeur

    Flambeur Well-Known Member

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    Probably Plan C/D, but I look at it as just taking a different path to a destination, which kind of remains the same.
     
  2. holymadness

    holymadness Well-Known Member

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    It's not really fair if we are counting childhood dreams. As far as I can remember them, I had three successive dream carreers as a kid, I'll rank them plans A to C. Plan D failed too. I'd say I am on plan E as well, though I am a bit younger than you. Oh, and I was a strange kid. My childhood dreams were, I kid you not, plan A - army, plan B - curator in a big museum, plan C - high-ranking civil servant.
    This is so, so very French. [​IMG]
     
  3. Etienne

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    [​IMG]
    Why the facepalm? This one is actually still pretty feasible, though for a limited time, if I still wanted to.
     
  4. Milhouse

    Milhouse Well-Known Member

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    Well, ignoring childhood stuff, I'm way down the road on plans. . . I'll simplify:

    Plan A was university researcher
    Plan B was university professor (I didn't want to teach unless forced)
    Plan C was private sector researcher

    The prereq? A PhD. . .which I don't have

    Turns out I couldn't afford to live on the kind of pay science provides.

    So I went to Plan D. . . luck and chance

    It turns out relying on luck and chance is far more lucrative than being a scientist.
     
  5. holymadness

    holymadness Well-Known Member

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    Why the facepalm? This one is actually still pretty feasible, though for a limited time, if I still wanted to.
    Did you go to the ENA? [​IMG]

    In principle, I am opposed to the gratuitous expansion of bureaucratic machinery, especially in a country as centralized as France. That your countrymen seem to think nothing of leaving nearly all matters of public life in government hands never ceases to amaze me.

    Its general inefficiency and incompetence, however, does not surprise me much.

    Interestingly, I'm not sure I can think of another country where public service is as much an honour as in France.
     
  6. zillka

    zillka Well-Known Member

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    So I went to Plan D. . . luck and chance It turns out relying on luck and chance is far more lucrative than being a scientist.
    explain in detail, hooking?
     
  7. Etienne

    Etienne Well-Known Member

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    Did you go to the ENA?
    No, but many of my friends did, and I seriously considered it a few years ago. Theoretically, it is still a carreer option, but increasingly unlikely.

    This comment, actually, seems very gratuitous to me. It's also quite revealing. Your facepalm was not, it turns out, really grounded on a deep analysis but rather on a general dislike of the public service. Duly noted.

    This is probably true, but I don't consider this a bad thing automatically like you apparently do.
     
  8. holymadness

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    This comment, actually, seems very gratuitous to me. It's also quite revealing. Your facepalm was not, it turns out, really grounded on a deep analysis but rather on a general dislike of the public service. Duly noted.
    This is an odd dismissal. Firstly, I work in the consular services of a foreign embassy in Paris, so not only do I not have an a priori against government, but I have a good basis for comparison of different systems. Second, as an expatriate in France, I have ample experience with the various government agencies responsible for immigration, residence cards, work permits, drivers' licences, the CAF, the PACS, and so forth. The nature of my work touches on their activities as well. The inconsistency in the application of rules, the arbitrariness of decisions, and the delays of service are astounding from any neutral point of view. Thirdly, I would be surprised if a facepalm has ever been grounded on deep analysis. [​IMG] Il ne faut pas prendre ces choses tellement au sÃ[​IMG]rieux.
    I consider it part and parcel of a larger statism which characterizes French culture, dating from before the French Revolution. The federal government arrogates power to itself in a highly centralized fashion (for example, the steamrolling of municipal authority as part of the Grand Paris project). Citizens then expect it to solve most, if not all, problems that affect the public well-being. This is an unrealistic expectation no matter what your position on government is, but it leads to a swollen bureaucracy that is elaborated in order to regulate and solve issues that are rarely best dealt with by the state. Many are then enticed to work there by the prestige the government has acquired for itself by being the supreme national arbiter. This is obviously a gloss on a complex situation, but I stand by the gist. Note that there is no French equivalent of the phrase 'public/civil servant' -- you say 'fonctionnaire.' The famous French penchant for self-criticism touches everything the government does, but never its necessity to do something. I would be lying if I said that seeing this general attitude expressed in public discourse didn't perplex me somewhat.
     
  9. EL72

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    I've always wanted to be a respectable slacker so I'd say I'm pretty much on track with my goals.
     
  10. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Well-Known Member

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    Plan A was to be an astronaut and it didn't work out so well. Plan B, to be a well dressed alcoholic, is coming along nicely.
     
  11. Texasmade

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    Starting from high school.

    Plan A was to be a professional football player. Plan B was to be a sports agent. Plan C was to make partner at a large accounting firm. I'm going to implement my Plan D in a few months of quitting my job at my current firm and go to industry.
     
  12. sho'nuff

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    my initial plan was to become a professional athlete and make millions of dollars and houses.
    but that went by the wayside as soon as my dad's sperm and my mom's egg attached.

    then i decided i want to become a pop star or famous movie actor
    but that i had to give up as soon as i was born into a mediocre asian household living in united states

    then i decided i want to become an astronaut
    but i dropped that as soon as i started thinking straight at around 9 years old.

    then i wanted to become a doctor.
    but that got decided against after a few years in college

    then i wanted to settle for dentistry or pharmacist
    but that was nixed after some bad life choices made in my twenties and hanging out with wrong people.

    then i wanted to just get a job somewhere.
    so now i am in IT
     
  13. Jumbie

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    I'm also working on my second million now. I completely gave up on my first! [​IMG]

    Sigged.
     
  14. Milhouse

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    explain in detail, hooking?

    Pornographer.
     
  15. tor

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    Well, as a child up through about junior year in high school, I wanted to be an oncology research doctor, but I gave up on that because of all the work it would involve (yeah, I know [​IMG]). Then from junior year in high school until about freshman year in college, I was set on becoming a novelist. Then I realized that I can't write fiction good enough, so I am now on track to becoming a lawyer. I'm still planning on writing though. All I need to do is live an interesting enough life so that I can write creative non-fiction and have it be interesting.
     
  16. zillka

    zillka Well-Known Member

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    Pornographer.
    this is probably a joke, but on a serious note; my childhood best friend's sister turned down a part time scholarship and acceptance to harvard because she didn't have the patience for another 3 years (transfer student) and was managing a porn website ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$) on the side which lead to that lifestyle/crowd which lead to selling them drugs (meaning more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) which led to Fed's busting down her door, which led to deportation... oh the price of focusing too much on pussy/dick, partying in your 20's, and finding an 'easier' way out..oyy
     
  17. Milhouse

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    this is probably a joke, but on a serious note; my childhood best friend's sister turned down a part time scholarship and acceptance to harvard because she didn't have the patience for another 3 years (transfer student) and was managing a porn website ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$) on the side which lead to that lifestyle/crowd which lead to selling them drugs (meaning more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) which led to Fed's busting down her door, which led to deportation...

    oh the price of focusing too much on pussy/dick, partying in your 20's, and finding an 'easier' way out..oyy


    [​IMG]

    Yeah, it was a joke.
     
  18. HelloIDistance

    HelloIDistance Well-Known Member

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    Plan A was to play pro basketball which I gave up since I'm 5'8" and have a 2" vertical. Plan B was to be a rock star and though I did tour with a band for a few years we never came close to star status. Currently, I'm a stay at home dad, which I like to call Plan WTF.

    Just curious, what was the name of your band?
     
  19. Johnny_5

    Johnny_5 Well-Known Member

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    Plan A was to be a chef.

    Plan B - get a Big 4 accounting job and take it from there

    Plan C - Military

    Plan D - Chef.

    Plan E - Sommelier





    Right now I'm on plan B and if it falls through I'm 85% sure I'm joining the military.
     
  20. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Well-Known Member

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    You should totally take the entry somm. exam. I think you meet the requirements. You work on a service staff in a resto right now don't you?
     

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