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Handmade Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by piergiacomi, Jan 27, 2011.

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  1. piergiacomi

    piergiacomi Well-Known Member

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    By the way when you are asking 1000$+ for a shoe it is probably a good idea to pay someone who speaks fluent English $300 or so -one time- to write your home page contents in proper English, unless of course the mistakes are to be interpreted as signs of genuineness.

    True, a few days ago I started an English course... [​IMG] I had no time to update the contents.

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    points for you for being OK with the english language criticism :)

    About the other stuff, i.e, price - (Note that this is only my opinion- I do not claim it to be 'the truth')

    note that

    1) construction is only one piece of the puzzle. After all, every british ‘quality’ shoe maker uses the same construction-Goodyear as you know- and no one is shouting at them to do Norvegese or Bentivegna

    By the way- I actually love Norvegese / Bentivegna

    2) 'Handmade in Italy' as I am sure you know can mean many thinks, e.g

    A- A Chinese immigrant living in Italy once touched them

    B- A few skilled artisans- presumably not Chinese- spent some quality time producing them.


    So the claim of 'handmade' by itself means nothing to a first customer

    It is then important that you consider how well known your product is to the SF market. If you don’t have the pedigree then you cant ask for the price. (15% is too little)

    Third I believe that most of your models are what most SFers would categorise as too 'fashion forward' and thus not worth the money

    Again I may be totally wrong- It could be that many people here will express interest
     
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    2) 'Handmade in Italy' as I am sure you know can mean many thinks
    This thread already includes videos and pictures of the actual crafting process. If needed, many more of those could be added to the website with little effort. But they should be placed with care. I personally don't like to hear unexpected sounds from a web store, which the current one produces (video at "home"). Distractions are generally not good when you want people to buy. This could be improved for example by not autoplaying the clip. Then if a visitor chooses to click it, sounds would be expected. You should sell a story also at your website. History page is a good start, testimonials would be next. But use a translator to make it right. Because premium product / price creates certain expectations which naturally extend to service - which is just what your website is. I guess piergiacomi has already had a few orders from the forum. The results will speak for themselves. SF could be enough for a while, but if the business catches on. Thus countbaron's issue is probably something for the near future (important for non-SF customers), seeing as Viccel and the hand rolled pocket square guy got quite much business from the forum with even more basic web presence. Prices are quite different though.... sending 500 instead of
     
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    Ras

    I thought Nokia phones did not support any advanced features like video recording since they use Symbian instead of Apple/Google

    Can you actually capture a clip with a Nokia phone



























    Just joking
     
  5. piergiacomi

    piergiacomi Well-Known Member

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    Right, we have problems with English but we are trying to overcome.
    The price for goodyear construction is 504€ with EU VAT, if you are extra EU is 420 € but you can see only if you are registered.
    With 15% discount the price is 357 € for standard goodyear construction.

    We can't sell under this price.

    Best Regards
    Emanuel
     
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    mktitsworth Well-Known Member

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    Right, we have problems with English but we are trying to overcome.
    The price for goodyear construction is 504€ with EU VAT, if you are extra EU is 420 € but you can see only if you are registered.
    With 15% discount the price is 357 € for standard goodyear construction.

    We can't sell under this price.

    Best Regards
    Emanuel


    And you shouldn't. If I remember correctly all of these are being hand made in your shop, and they are all made to order. Congrats on getting everything up and running.

    BTW, I've thought of another question that I don't think has been asked: What material is the footbed made from?
     
  7. piergiacomi

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    Yes, this constructions is handmade, we aren't famous, and our price i think is cheap.
    What do you mean for footbed?
    We use 3 leather sole for goodyear and 4 sole for norwegian and bentivegna.

    Our construction is composed:

    1) Insole about 2-2,5 mm first choice natural leather (Goodyear, Norwegian and Bentivegna)
    2) Footbed about 4-4,5 mm "soft shoulder calf leather" natural tanning (Goodyear, Norwegian and Bentivegna)
    3) Welt about 2-2,5 mm natural leather (Goodyear and Bentivegna)
    4) Midsole about 3-4 mm natural leather (Norwegian and Bentivegna; Goodyear on demand)
    5) Sole about 6 mm natural leather (Goodyear, Norwegian and Bentivegna)

    If necessary we also use cork or felt, but we don't like it becouse Shoulder of calf fits with your feet.

    I answered the question?

    Soon I post new photos of Goodyear.

    Best Regards
    Emanuel
     
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    woah that's a really good price!

    i also like that you don't use cork.
     
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    Well done on the shoes, but you dont have any pointed shoes in your collection?
     
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    Well done on the shoes, but you dont have any pointed shoes in your collection?

    Yes there is, for now only for Bentivegna, but on request we can develop for Goodyear or Norwegian, can you post an example?
     
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    Something like this.

    Santoni:
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    A prototype of this model is in the works, I think to publish any picture next days, we are making a double monk, with Goodyear construction and another with Norwegian.

    Best Regards
     
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    A prototype of this model is in the works, I think to publish any picture next days, we are making a double monk, with Goodyear construction and another with Norwegian.

    Best Regards


    Good one!
     
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    Thanks those monks are nice. What are we talking here? Norvegese + storm welt? Price will be in USD?
     
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    Thanks, In this case "Norvegese" with only another seem for double monk, the price range is about 450-480€ 600-650$.
     
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    Enjoyed seeing the shoes and the process by which you make them. Best of luck!
     
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