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Gun Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. JLibourel

    JLibourel Well-Known Member

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    ^Interesting about that .22 RF conversion. We tend to forget how many gunsmiths there were doing weird and wonderful things to Colt Single Action Armies, especially in the interwar years. Of course, much of my familiarity with them (and yours, too, I'm sure) comes from my old friend Elmer Keith's book Sixguns: Christy's, J.D. O'Meara, Neal Houchins, Sedgley (best known for their sporterized 1903 Springfields), "Pop" Eimer and King*, just to name some that come to mind. I am afraid I have never heard of Pearsall before.

    *This firm is not to be confused with the later King's Gun Works, based in Los Angeles and later Glendale. I think the full name of the older firm was King Gun Sight Company, and I am pretty sure they were based in San Francisco, an unlikely spot for a custom gunsmithing house these days! Although the later King's Gun Works, which existed from 1949 until it folded a few years back, is best known for their 1911 work--they and Armand Swenson were the real pioneers of "combat customizing"--they also did some very fine customizing on the Colt Single Action Army and other SAs. They did a fair amount of this work for Hank Williams, Jr. It was a sad day for the dying gun culture of Southern California when Bill Capone decided to shut down King's. I imagine a lot of younger fellows don't realize what a vibrant epicenter of the gun culture Southern California was until the past couple of decades.

    I suppose my friend Hamilton Bowen might well be the foremost figure doing that kind of single action work these days. I thought his book on revolver customizing was a masterpiece.
     
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  2. i10casual

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    Crane's, I look forward to the photos.
     
  3. Crane's

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    1898 Colt SAA that was converted to a 22 LR target pistol.

    So here it is. I knew it was a "Colt SAA" when I first saw it across the room. Of course we all know just because it looks like something doesn't mean it's the real deal. Upon further examination it was pretty obvious. The first pic pretty much gives it away. Yep those patent numbers are right and hey that's the Colt horse. The flame hardening is pretty much intact which is pretty cool since the thing is 115 years old.

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    Serial number 175460. According to Colt's records that means it was made in 1898. Given the low serial number for that year I would say it was made in the 3rd week or so of January 1898.

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    Well it's not chambered in 45 or 41 Colt that's for sure.

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    Field stripped showing how the cylinder was sleeved for 22 Long Rifle. Judging by the sleeve dimensions I'm fairly sure the cylinder was originally chambered in 45 Colt. Somebody spent some time modifying this cylinder that's for sure. The chambers are dimensionally correct for 22LR and are throated properly as well.

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    The more I looked this gun over the more interesting things became. Here's a shot of another modification. Instead of the firing pin being on the hammer like it's supposed to be this gun has a rebounding firing pin that was installed in the frame. The hammer was plugged so you don't have this big hole in it. Now don't think because it has this that it's safe to carry it with a round under the hammer. It isn't. With the hammer down the pin will rest on a live cartridge and if you drop it just might go bang.

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    Just a side view shot. Holster worn and a bit beat up but hey there's no rust to speak of. This was somebody's pride and joy IMO.

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    A fully adjustable rear sight was fitted and installed along the top strap. Again this took some serious machining as well. Whoever did this modification went so far as to hand cut the rear blade to match the width of the front sight.

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    Detail shot of the Parker Hale front sight.

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    Here's a shot of the Pearsall barrel markings. I can make out Pearsall but the rest of it I'm not sure about.

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    Left side shot showing the overall condition of the gun. Those are some nice hand cut oversized target grips by the way.

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    Right side shot. I'm not sure why a short screw was used on the gun. It could be nothing more than someone lost a screw and replaced it with one that just worked. That would be my guess. Now there's another thing about this gun that bears mention. The single action trigger pull is one pound. I have no idea how that was done since the lock time is very quick and it doesn't light strike. It could be done by changing the trigger group geometry I suppose.

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    I spent half my life in a machine shop and the custom work that was done to this gun is extraordinary. The fit, finish and attention to detail is the work of someone who really knew and understood what they were doing. Someone somewhere in the last 115 years paid a lot of money to turn this old Colt into one helluva a target pistol.

    Now it's mine and it's not for sale. LOL!
     
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  4. JLibourel

    JLibourel Well-Known Member

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    ^The elongated grip panels that cover the bottom of the grip frame are an interesting feature. On first look, I thought maybe somebody had fitted an 1860 Army grip frame, which was sometimes done to accommodate large male hands.

    Any idea what the purpose of that hole or indentation in the cylinder face between the chambers is?
     
  5. Crane's

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    Actually yes I do. There are three of them and they are tapped. That tells me that the cylinder was setup in a jig and then bored with a milling machine and a dividing head. Whoever did this was making a regular habit of it.
     
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  7. Caustic Man

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    Newest member of the family

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  8. brokencycle

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    The sights look nice. How does it shoot?
     
  9. Caustic Man

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    Trigger isn't as nice as my GLOCK19, but it's a straight shooter without any FTE/FTF.
     
  10. Krish the Fish

    Krish the Fish Well-Known Member

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    I have an M&P9 also, and I'm also not the biggest fan of the trigger. I think I'm going to look into the Apex stuff for the gun and see if that helps. But otherwise it felt more sturdy in my hand than any of its competitors.
     
  11. Caustic Man

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    I have to say, it's a solid sidearm. I am not convinced yet that it has any significant advantages over the GLOCK though.
     
  12. JLibourel

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    What does FTE/FTF stand for? I thought I was more familiar with the arcana of firearms abbreviations than most men, but I don't know that one. I have a suspicion it may have something to do with Glocks and the like, which would explain my lack of familiarity.
     
  13. Caustic Man

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    Failure to feed/Failure to eject. It's an internet era abbreviation common in gun forums, but not the real world.
     
  14. retronotmetro

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    The Apex striker block and sear will smooth out the pull considerably. If yours was made before mid-2013 (when they changed the sear housing) you can add the RAM to improve the felt reset. The newest slide stop will also improve the reset because it is configured to push the trigger bar back under the sear on reset.
     
  15. Douglas

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    I picked up my Colt M4 and M&P9 Shield last night, after my 7-day waiting period had elapsed.
     
  16. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    So happy to live in a state without waiting periods!
     
  17. Douglas

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    Well, in my state, as of October 1, the waiting period on AR-15s and handguns with more than 10-round magazines is however long as it takes to change the laws, or to have the current ones declared unconstitutional.
     
  18. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    That sucks. I lived in California for many years so I feel your pain. All I can say is now that I live in Kentucky I'll never go back.
     
  19. i10casual

    i10casual Well-Known Member

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    Anything goes in New Mexico. I could wear a gun on my hat, should I choose to do so.
     
  20. Crane's

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    That's the way it is in MO.
     

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