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Greenpeace @ Porsche

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by A Y, Jul 31, 2007.

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    How many Porsche Cayenne Turbo’s do they make a year? Shouldn’t Greenpeace protest FoCoMo and GM before Porsche? I mean they make a lot more gas-guzzling cars a year than Porsche does in a decade.

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    That is pwnage at its best.

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    How many Porsche Cayenne Turbo's do they make a year? Shouldn't Greenpeace protest FoCoMo and GM before Porsche? I mean they make a lot more gas-guzzling cars a year than Porsche does in a decade.

    Jon.


    I think the issue with Porsche, specifically, is that they don't make any fuel efficient cars. Ford and GM have a large volume of high MPG cars to balance out their fleet. It's pretty short-sighted, if you ask me.
     
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    The Veyron gets four MPG.
     
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    The Veyron gets four MPG.

    Greenpeace can't find a fast enough car to chase down Veyron owners.
     
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    german is such an ugly language.
     
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    german is such an ugly language.

    Seriously. I don't know whether you're reading a love poem to me or hurling insults and ordering me to do manual labor.
     
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    I think the issue with Porsche, specifically, is that they don't make any fuel efficient cars. Ford and GM have a large volume of high MPG cars to balance out their fleet. It's pretty short-sighted, if you ask me.

    Completely understandable, but they are a very low production brand. I would have to look it up, but I wonder what % of the market Porsche has. Greenpeace is going to have to protest Ferrari and Lamborghini too.

    Anyways, I'm the first proponent of alternative fuels for transportation, but I don't think Porsche is going to change their ways thanks to Greenpeace.

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    Seriously. I don't know whether you're reading a love poem to me or hurling insults and ordering me to do manual labor.

    Have you heard arias from Die Zauberflote or Tristan und Isolde?

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    Completely understandable, but they are a very low production brand. I would have to look it up, but I wonder what % of the market Porsche has. Greenpeace is going to have to protest Ferrari and Lamborghini too.

    Anyways, I'm the first proponent of alternative fuels for transportation, but I don't think Porsche is going to change their ways thanks to Greenpeace.

    Jon.


    Also, I think Porsche has been targeted due to the fact that they publicly protested the latest rounds of proposed EU fuel economy standards. Ferrari and Lambo stayed quiet, but Porsche painted a big target on their backs when they said the proposed fuel standards were unfair (they are).
     
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    Also, I think Porsche has been targeted due to the fact that they publicly protested the latest rounds of proposed EU fuel economy standards. Ferrari and Lambo stayed quiet, but Porsche painted a big target on their backs when they said the proposed fuel standards were unfair (they are).

    Aha. I was unaware of that. Well, I guess that would change everything. Why are the fuel standards unfair?

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    Aha. I was unaware of that. Well, I guess that would change everything. Why are the fuel standards unfair?

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    The fuel standards could force manufacturers to build cars that are outside of their segment. For example, Porsche would have to come up with some of higher fuel economy vehicle to balance out their fleet of performance cars, but GM can continue as normal, since they already have a balanced fleet. This is very similar to the fuel standards being proposed in our country.

    I think the best way to go, and the way Europe has done it for a while, now, is to heavily tax the fuel and cars and let the market sort it out. If you want to buy a high performance car, then you pay the extra tax on it at the pump and at the time of purchase. Instead, what the EU an US want is to limit the number of performance cars and water everything down into some kind of mediocrity.
     
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    The fuel standards could force manufacturers to build cars that are outside of their segment. For example, Porsche would have to come up with some of higher fuel economy vehicle to balance out their fleet of performance cars, but GM can continue as normal, since they already have a balanced fleet. This is very similar to the fuel standards being proposed in our country.

    I think the best way to go, and the way Europe has done it for a while, now, is to heavily tax the fuel and cars and let the market sort it out. If you want to buy a high performance car, then you pay the extra tax on it at the pump and at the time of purchase. Instead, what the EU an US want is to limit the number of performance cars and water everything down into some kind of mediocrity.


    But couldn't Porsche argue that as part owner of VW that they are like GM, and their cars actually straddle all segments and fuel standards? I mean, granted it's a technicality, but a viable one at that, no?

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    But couldn't Porsche argue that as part owner of VW that they are like GM, and their cars actually straddle all segments and fuel standards? I mean, granted it's a technicality, but a viable one at that, no?

    Jon.


    I dunno, but along these lines, I've always wondered if these relationships were partly forged out of regulation side-stepping.
     
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    I dunno, but along these lines, I've always wondered if these relationships were partly forged out of regulation side-stepping.

    It's definitely a possibility, I mean parts and platform sharing are incentives enough for them to invest in other brands, but I'm sure someone realized that with the upcoming fuel restrictions that there would yet another way to make their investment for them.

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    german is such an ugly language.

    Albeit intimidating.
     
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    german is such an ugly language.

    Actually, it's one of the most closely related languages to English. Not that I think English is a beautiful language either.

    I'd love to know how to speak German. I love that accent, personally.

    Here's one version of the Indo-European language tree.
     
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    the best part -when greenpeace's pink piggy car failed to start because of a dead battery, porsche mechanics fixed it and served the greenpeace morons coffee.
     

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