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Good tailor in Vancouver?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by office drone, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. CrocsRock

    CrocsRock Well-Known Member

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    I think you're right near Samuelsohn range with that kind of money and depending on what you want in the suit. That's actually the route I'm thinking of going (I'm just across the water in Victoria) for my next suit, or checking out Kane Straith (a local tailor who I've heard good things about, but don't actually have any first-hand on what he offers in the way of suiting).
     
  2. JeffsWood

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    Here are some pics of the pants. To be fair to Joy you need a bit more of the story behind these.

    These pants are part of suit that was made for me when I was size 40 or 41 waist, they were very baggy even then. I am now a 35” waist. Joy did a total re-cut on these pants, so it was a bit bigger job then just removing pleats. I had her work on this suit – a not so great MTM made by Lawson Tailors in Richmond as it was nice enough that if things worked out I would wear it, and not so nice that if things didn’t work I would care. The rise is a bit long on these pants overall they are just fine – but the not so great fit has more to do with the scope of the re-cut then the pleat removal. To be honest I could not tell you what the cost was for just the pleat removal, but as I need to go see her tomorrow I’ll ask.

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    Speaking of tailors, I have had Steve Samson www.stevesamson.org make me a few shirts in the past, and he just sent me post card to let me know he is doing a $120 MTM shirt for $79 shirt deal and buy 4 get one free. He has made me four shirts before and they never come in at the posted price but they have all been very nice cotton (I always seem to pick the expensive stuff) and the workmanship has been very good. His shirts have been much better then my mytailor.com test shirt and the shirts he has made me are my favorites. I would buy from him more often, but we have never really connected and I never have really established a good comfort level with him. His other costumers rave about how great he is to deal with, so maybe it’s just me. I am not sure who actually makes “his” shirts as he sends them out somewhere. I am making an appointment to see him next week to order 5 shirts and see if we can get enough rapport going to work on a MTM suit.
     
  3. JeffsWood

    JeffsWood Well-Known Member

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    Gotta love the internet. Here I am googling Vancouver tailors and this thread comes up.

    I will look into some of the individuals mentioned previously.

    Was also wondering if I can ask you experienced suit buyers a few questions. I work in the design industry and the dress-code even at meetings does not require suits. I own one suit that I wear to the one or 2 occaisons each year that require it. I am getting married in mid September and would like to look sharp...Hence a new suit is in order.

    My suit buying experiences have been extremely limited - and took a turn downward yesterday.
    Where I have run into trouble is my stature... I'm about 5'6 140lbs. and of slight build. I went to Harry's yesterday and they essentially told me I was best off getting a made to measure. After doing some googling I found the Tailor Made doc, the Modernize website, and this one...

    Being somewhat young and having a host of other wedding bills to pay... I can budget around $1200-$1500 dollars for a suit.

    Is this anywhere close to getting me a MTM suit with a reasonable degree of quality & style?

    Thanks for your input - .... I'm completely suit illiterate so any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
    RJ



    How soon do you need it? For under $1500 you can get a good MTM in the fall Harry Rosen has their Sammy's MTM on sale for around $1200, so if you have a few months you could go that route. Very nice suit for the price.
     
  4. w.kevin

    w.kevin Well-Known Member

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    How soon do you need it? For under $1500 you can get a good MTM in the fall Harry Rosen has their Sammy's MTM on sale for around $1200, so if you have a few months you could go that route. Very nice suit for the price.

    How well do Harry's MTM suits compare with TaT, which is around half the price? I've been considering getting a MTM suit to replace my old OTR, but I'd rather do it online if it's better price-to-quality than go to the Vancouver Harry's.
     
  5. JeffsWood

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    I have no clue as I have never been up close to a TaT suit. Personally I don't think I would try MTM online as it is tough enough to get a good MTM face to face. The ToT web stie looks cool and their suit details sound very good.
     
  6. w.kevin

    w.kevin Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the quick response, and the heads up on Steve Samson (will definitely look into that, 79 for a good shirt sounds awesome). Might go into Harry Rosen and see if they have any samples before choosing.
     
  7. R-H

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    Thanks for posting those pics Jeff. It looks like Joy did a good job removing those pleats for you.
     
  8. 3demon

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    which of the tailors recommended do you think would do best working with newer/edgier styles? (slim etc). I'm assuming Fuscaldi would not be the number 1 choice. I was considering getting a slim suit and having it worked on.
    I'm also looking to get an off-rack Boss suit trimmed up to fit more slim. The shoulders are great but the silhouette is off.
    I've worked with Modernize before and was very satisfied with their work and the pricepoint, but not sure if I should go back to them again for this job?
     
  9. JeffsWood

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    Thanks for posting those pics Jeff. It looks like Joy did a good job removing those pleats for you.


    She did, you have no clue how much work was done to them, she pretty much made new pants.
     
  10. tyeunk

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    She did, you have no clue how much work was done to them, she pretty much made new pants.

    Jeff,

    Do you remember the cost?
     
  11. JeffsWood

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    i just saw her today, she charged $80 for the total pant make over and told me that just taking pleats out is around $50 but most time it will get up to $80 as it is rarely just a pleat removal. She said $80 was the max for pant work.
     
  12. bleepo

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    I just bit the bullet and have Samtani & Son in Langley making me my first MTM shirt. I'll let you know how it turns out. I bought one of his OTR and he altered it, and it's my favourite shirt.

    A quick update, I got my MTM today. He's a bit out of the way for those of you in the city, but for the suburbanites, it's better heading out there than to Harry or Holt. The workmanship seems very good. Fits me perfectly. As far as I can tell, he sends it to the Samtani in HK. I'd take pictures, but I don't have a decent mirror. If anyone cares, I'll get the wife to take one.
     
  13. JeffsWood

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    A quick update, I got my MTM today. He's a bit out of the way for those of you in the city, but for the suburbanites, it's better heading out there than to Harry or Holt. The workmanship seems very good. Fits me perfectly. As far as I can tell, he sends it to the Samtani in HK. I'd take pictures, but I don't have a decent mirror. If anyone cares, I'll get the wife to take one.


    Would love to see some pictures.
     
  14. VisualMerchandiseManager

    VisualMerchandiseManager New Member

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    Does anyone know of any master tailors looking for an apprentice?
     
  15. 87Suited

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    What a brilliant thread. I was out celebrating my recent promotion last Friday after work and after a few too many I found myself in a situation where I needed to climb a chain-link fence. Needless to say that in my inebriated state I managed to tear my pants at the pocket. There's about a two inch tear along the seam and fraying of the fabrics along the tear. Is this salvageable? if so, would any tailor be able to fix this? The suit was pretty expensive for me (~$1100) so I don't mind the cost if it'll mean I can fix my pants. Also, my new position at work will require me to wear suits 4-5 times a week. I currently have two suits (the aforementioned suit with the ripped pants, and a Boss suit of roughly the same calibre) but will definetly need more. I'm thinking I'll need at least 3 more suits to begin with, but I've only got about $2000 available. Any recommendations on good suits in the $500-700 range? I'm a total rookie when it comes to suits so I don't even know if there is such a thing. whilst searching for quality tailors in Vancouver on Google, I came across this site which offers online MTM suits: http://www.indochino.com/ Has anyone tried it? Is it worth considering? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  16. Doc4

    Doc4 Well-Known Member

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    What a brilliant thread.

    I was out celebrating my recent promotion last Friday after work and after a few too many I found myself in a situation where I needed to climb a chain-link fence. Needless to say that in my inebriated state I managed to tear my pants at the pocket. There's about a two inch tear along the seam and fraying of the fabrics along the tear. Is this salvageable? if so, would any tailor be able to fix this? The suit was pretty expensive for me (~$1100) so I don't mind the cost if it'll mean I can fix my pants.

    Also, my new position at work will require me to wear suits 4-5 times a week. I currently have two suits (the aforementioned suit with the ripped pants, and a Boss suit of roughly the same calibre) but will definetly need more. I'm thinking I'll need at least 3 more suits to begin with, but I've only got about $2000 available. Any recommendations on good suits in the $500-700 range? I'm a total rookie when it comes to suits so I don't even know if there is such a thing.

    whilst searching for quality tailors in Vancouver on Google, I came across this site which offers online MTM suits: http://www.indochino.com/
    Has anyone tried it? Is it worth considering?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


    It's always tempting to simply say "take the $2000 and buy one good suit you can wear ... save for another later ..." I wonder what your suit budget will be like with your new promotion. Can you afford (looking ahead) to buy a bunch of $2-3,000 suits over time, or is that financially unreasonable?

    I think Vancouver has a new H&M store, which might be a good place to start looking for stylish & inexpensive suits.
     
  17. JeffsWood

    JeffsWood Well-Known Member

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    It's always tempting to simply say "take the $2000 and buy one good suit you can wear ... save for another later ..." I wonder what your suit budget will be like with your new promotion. Can you afford (looking ahead) to buy a bunch of $2-3,000 suits over time, or is that financially unreasonable?

    I think Vancouver has a new H&M store, which might be a good place to start looking for stylish & inexpensive suits.


    For me I am not sure a $2000 - $3000 suit is better than a $1000-$1500 suit. I find once you can spend enough to get out of the department store fused suit and into a full canvas suit spending more money starts to have demising returns.
     
  18. Roger

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    What a brilliant thread.

    I was out celebrating my recent promotion last Friday after work and after a few too many I found myself in a situation where I needed to climb a chain-link fence. Needless to say that in my inebriated state I managed to tear my pants at the pocket. There's about a two inch tear along the seam and fraying of the fabrics along the tear. Is this salvageable? if so, would any tailor be able to fix this? The suit was pretty expensive for me (~$1100) so I don't mind the cost if it'll mean I can fix my pants.

    Also, my new position at work will require me to wear suits 4-5 times a week. I currently have two suits (the aforementioned suit with the ripped pants, and a Boss suit of roughly the same calibre) but will definetly need more. I'm thinking I'll need at least 3 more suits to begin with, but I've only got about $2000 available. Any recommendations on good suits in the $500-700 range? I'm a total rookie when it comes to suits so I don't even know if there is such a thing.

    whilst searching for quality tailors in Vancouver on Google, I came across this site which offers online MTM suits: http://www.indochino.com/
    Has anyone tried it? Is it worth considering?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Jeez, that's a shame about your suit trousers. You could take them to Joy at Oakridge Tailors (about 40th & Cambie) or Frank at Minichiello's in North Van and have them evaluated as to whether they can be decently repaired. As for new suits, I think I might recommend a different route than that suggested by Doc4. Although there are certainly advantages to seeing in the flesh and trying on a new suit before buying (and Doc4's suggestion makes good sense in this light), I might recommend that you find a good online seller (some given below) and buying a new and really good RTW suit, with alterations done locally. I've done this a number of times--as have many other forumers--and as long as your body proportions are reasonably average, this will probably produce a nice suit for you. As just one example: there are a number of online sellers (one on eBay--Nitr-O) who sell Isaia suits. Now, these are really top-tier suits that run at or over $3K at Holt Renfrew currently. I've bought two online for something on the order of $700-$900. I've then had either Tony Arletto or Frank Fuscaldo at Minichiello's alter them to a really good fit--probably just about as good as if they'd been MTM. The cost of the alterations has run to maybe $100-$150, so that the total cost of these suits has come to $850-$1050. You can do the same with Brioni, Borrelli, Zegna, etc., suits; I just happen to really like Isaia.

    It is very important, however, if you plan to go this route to take some careful measurements beforehand. You should take a really good-fitting suit (or jacket) and determine: (a) the shoulder width (distance from shoulder/sleeve seam on one side to that on the other side); (b) the chest measurement (put jacket flat and smoothed out and measure from about 1" below the armpit on one side to same on the other side); (c) the length (from the seam just below the collar at the back to hem); (d) sleeve length (length from sleeve/shoulder seam to end of cuff). Of these measurements, perhaps the most important is the shoulder measurement because it is the most difficult and costly to alter. Chest widths can be let out maybe 1"-2" (or taken in). Jacket length can't normally be altered, and sleeve length can normally be shortened and possibly lengthened (although you'd have to ascertain from the seller whether there was material tucked under at the cuff). I would do these measurements very carefully. If the jacket you are measuring from is not ideal, you can take that into account in establishing ideal measurements. Then you need to check with the seller just what the corresponding measurements are on the suit you are considering. The good sellers will normally be happy to do this.

    Some attention also has to be paid, of course, to the suit trousers, although things are usually much less critical than with the jacket. Waist size is obviously important. This can usually be taken in by up to 2" (but not more), and can often be let out as well (but you'd need to check with the seller about this). Inseam length will normally be much greater than you will end up at, but again this should be checked beforehand. If you have some preferences about narrowness/fullness of the leg, you could check on trouser width at the knee and at the cuff (at your inseam length). Other measurement, like rise, for example, are less critical.

    If you do all this, you will almost-certainly end up with a suit that can be made just right with the alterations that are possible. For the latter, I'd recommend either Tony Arletto (if he is still available; I'm not certain about this), Frank Fuscaldo at Minichiello's, or Joy at Oakridge Tailors. I hope that others will chime in here with their experiences with Vancouver Tailors--always an interesting topic, given the general dearth of good tailors in Vancouver!

    Finally, here are a couple of very highly-recommended online sellers. There are many more out there, but this will get you started:

    http://virtualclotheshorse.com/index...4189b449ade009

    http://www.shopthefinest.com/storefr...id=82624&sid=1
     
  19. Fez

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    For me I am not sure a $2000 - $3000 suit is better than a $1000-$1500 suit. I find once you can spend enough to get out of the department store fused suit and into a full canvas suit spending more money starts to have demising returns.

    I tend to agree with JeffsWood on this point. With the general lack of high-end suiting options in Vancouver there seems to be only a few very select places to find something decent. In Vancouver, especially, I find that most "businessmen" tend to shy away from the formality of a suit. Walking around downtown I seem to notice the general fit of one's suit rather than the less obvious "handcrafted" details.

    If you're new to wearing a suit, I think the first step is to find out what brands/cuts/styles generally fit you best and start from there. For this, you might be best going to a brick and mortar store (Harry, Holt, etc) to see what works for you and your body type/build. Harry, for example, offers complimentary alterations on stuff bought there (within reason), so it might be a good idea to buy your first few suits from them as they will continue to alter them as your preferences change. Once you've gotten a few suits under your belt, so to speak, you might be a in a better position to determine what you like versus what you don't like when shopping online. Even after a few years, I'm still very weary of buying suits online and still haven't yet done so, for what it's worth.....

    I would also take a look at The Bay in Pacific Centre as they have a small section (Hudson Room?) that carries "higher end" brands like Samuelsohn (good workhorse suits, in my opinion).

    Just my $0.02, but hope i've helped....
     
  20. Aaron

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    If you can wait your best bet for quality/price ratio is probably Maxwell's Tailors.

    They're a traveling tailor operation that tours Canada. Basically they set-up shop in a hotel conference room, you go and they measure you, you pick fabrics and suit style and then they send you a completed suit in the mail. If you need it altered you take it to Mike's on West Broadway (who is a great, inexpensive tailor. He's done a couple jacket and pant alterations for me and the work is superb).

    I thought they were coming to Vancouver in September but their website says december. Check them out here - http://www.maxwellsclothiers.com/
     

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