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Good tailor in Vancouver?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by office drone, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. AdamWill

    AdamWill Well-Known Member

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    Ah thanks. I was in there yesterday actually, but didn't ask about custom again. They were certainly rammed though! Six people came in and out while they tested alterations on a shirt of mine...
     
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    Can anyone else vouch for this tailor? I've been using Samuelsohn MTM and could try something else.

    My condolences to the people with the VCS fiasco, I almost tried the suit place too.
     
  3. AdamWill

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    I don't have any experience with any Vancouver tailors, I'm interested in other people's feedback too, but that post sounded kinda fishy to me. How does he know the guy's the best tailor in town if he's never tried any of the others? And do you really trust someone who goes that nuts over perfectly ordinary Zegna fabric? Hmm.
     
  4. sukhigrewal

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    Hey, don't go there. Good luck with other tailors. If you think a tailor who is unable to make a custom suit because he is busy with alterations is better than Cocco then stick with him. It tells me what his bread and butter is - alterations.

    If you think Zegna Centennial is "ordinary" then try finding it. Tells me what you know.
     
  5. AdamWill

    AdamWill Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to argue with you, man, I'm just a guy on the internet with an opinion. Take it for whatever you like.
     
  6. sukhigrewal

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    You can have an opinion but if it is pathetically informed it doesn't do anyone any good. Informing others is the purpose of this thread and your contribution in no way adds to this purpose.

    If you think the tailor I am suggesting is not good enough then suggest someone better. Don't make judgements about me.
     
  7. AdamWill

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    You're right, I shouldn't have put it that way. Sorry. I don't know about you. What I know is what's in your post. As you say, it's about informing people. Here's what you can inform people: you went to Seville and you had a good experience and you're happy with the result. That's cool, and that's good information. What I thought seemed a bit 'off' about your post are the bits where you compare it with other places:

    "the BEST tailor in Vancouver is here"
    "I am not sure how many tailors even know about this kind of stuff."

    even though, by your own admission:

    "I have never gone anywhere else"

    So, I mean, you can say you think Seville is good, great. It's good to know someone went there and was happy. But you can't really compare them with any other store, right? Because you've never used any of the other stores. You know as much about their abilities and knowledge as I do - nothing at all.

    I guess what I should have said is that it sounds like, as well as making you nice suits, Pat does a good 'sell job' - he obviously has a good patter about how awesome his fabrics are, how many famous people he's dressed (seriously, any tailor shop has a Wall of Fame) and so on. Which is cool too, it's part of the job of being a tailor.
     
  8. sukhigrewal

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    That is all fine. Again, we are looking for a Customer Tailor who does custom tailoring and isn't primarily focused on alteration work because there are tons of those around.

    I could be wrong about Pat being the best in town but I haven't read anyone suggest someone better. If your answer is the guy in Oakridge then you are missing the point.

    By the way, based on a few positive mentions of Oakridge, I called them for a custom suit two weeks ago. I thought it would be good to try someone different. He told me that he can't do any custom work until February 2013. I asked who he would suggest and guess what his answer was? Yes, Pat Cocco. So take it from your favorite tailor and not me.

    Have you ever dealt with Cocco?
     
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  9. SpiffEngineer

    SpiffEngineer Well-Known Member

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    Try to see this discussion from the point of view of an impartial observer:
    SukhiG you are constantly praising Pat Cocco without any apparent knowledge of the alternatives, or evidence of his work. If you want to gain some credibility, post a fit pic or two, so we can all learn and understand the tailor's work. None of us knows you, and for all we know, you could be a shill for some marketing company, (stranger things have been known to happen). I would also really like to see Cocco's work, because I have considered going to get a bespoke suit made.
    AdamW is trying to get some concrete information, and doesn't know who is good or bad, or who he can trust.
     
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  10. sukhigrewal

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    SpiffEngineer, I am not selling for him so I don't need to start snapping pictures of myself. I like tailor made clothes and wanted to point people to a guy who could do the job after reading this thread where people are being scammed by some Custom Suit dude. I meant to help the community here. I am not compelling anyone to go to Pat Cocco. Once you meet the guy, you will know if he is the type to use marketing shills.

    My issue with AdamW is that he essentially called me a scam and someone shallow who is impressed with ordinary fabrics without knowing anything about me and who I am.

    As for constantly praising his work, I put one post (my only post ever) until Adam the Internet opinion guy took a shot at my credibility.

    Good luck to all and do post tailors better than Pat Cocoo here and I might just try one out myself.

    This entire thing has proven to me that trying to be helpful has its own perils.
     
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  11. robertm

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    Hi,

    Lurker here...

    I am currently having two suits and two shirts made by Seville - should have them before Xmas and will try to post pics and comments when they are done. So far I am pleased with what I've seen of Pat's work and looking forward to the final product. What I like most is that he's making it right there; it's not being sent off somewhere else. I also have found him very easy to work with. He will answer questions and suggestions in a non-condescending way which is something I really appreciate.

    I have had other experiences with Vancouver "tailors" and they haven't been good.

    I'll report back later when I get my suits...

    Rob
     
  12. Doc4

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    I haven't pulled the trigger on a MTM/bespoke suit from either yet ... life keeps getting in the way and the money goes elsewhere, LOL ... one of these days I will. Interesting that Oakridge may not be doing custom work anymore ... but I was thinking of asking them to do a vest for me sometime soon, so maybe I'll get the goods straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

    I know that they do "turn away work" in the sense that people show up and ask for quick-turnaround stuff ... "can you do this for my event next Tuesday?" sort of thing ... and they are firm on their timelines ... sort of a first-in first-out sort of thing. So maybe they were asked about getting a custom suit done in time for an upcoming wedding or whatever, and they said no.

    Well, I'm glad to see them keeping busy and doing well, at any rate.
     
  13. AdamWill

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    sukhi: I meant it when I said I was sorry for that, it wasn't right to suggest anything about your credibility. I do mean that. I don't have an answer for the question - I'm not suggesting Oakridge for custom work, I've never had anything custom done there. They're great at alterations, but that doesn't mean their custom stuff would be. I haven't used any of the Vancouver tailors for custom work, which is why I'm interested in opinions on them. I get my stuff done by a guy in HK, and I'm happy with it, and if you asked I'd recommend him...but I wouldn't say he's the best tailor in HK, cos I don't know :)
     
  14. AdamWill

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    robertm: what other places did you try and not have a good experience at, if you don't mind saying?
     
  15. btemp

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    To jump in here I've heard great things about Seville off this board. I'm tall and athletic so its impossible (literally) for me to buy a off the rack suit that looks good. I've spent a very, very large amount of time looking for a good tailor here in Vancouver and have gotten so incredibly frustrated by the process I tried to buy OTR - but couldn't find anything that fit. The problem in Vancouver is either bad product or bad business practice/service (or a combination of).

    That being said, I've heard very good things about Cocco. I've got a couple referrals to him from acquaintances I know, and a good friend of mind had some alterations done by him and was pleased. When he picked them up, I went with him and found Cocco pleasant to talk with. That's not nearly definitive enough till I've had a suit or two made by him, but some tailors I've met in Vancouver can't even pull this off. He's the only tailor I know of in Vancouver who actually does his work in shop (I mean that literally, and I've looked!). That definitely gives him a significant leg up over "tailors" who send their work to chop shops out east or in China. For what its worth, he's also done a lot of work for celebrities when they're in Vancouver.

    He's where I'm buying my next suit from in the New Year, so I'm hoping the whole process goes well.
     
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  16. AdamWill

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    Sounds interesting - sounds like a few people are trying out Seville so I guess we'll be able to see the results soon :)

    If they're not doing custom any more it may be academic, but Oakridge told me straight up they do their custom work in Vancouver - not sure if it's actually in their *store*, but they said specifically they don't send it out of town or farm it out to anyone else, they do it themselves. And the price they quoted certainly lines up with that. I still have no idea how good it is / would be though, afaict from this thread, no-one's posted who actually had custom work done there.
     
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  17. Sartorial TO

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    Does anyone know of a tailor in Vancoiver that makes more of a modern slim suit similiar to what you could buy from a brand like Etro or Paul Smith. $1000-$1500 pricepoint?
     
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    I am also looking for a modern slim fit look for around the same price range of 1000-1500. Anyone in the market? I live close by to Samson's, but from the mixed reviews, I am a bit skeptical about taking the lunge. Any up to date info would be grand. Thanks.
     
  20. AdamWill

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    In case this is any use to anyone - my tailor left a buttonhole off a double-breasted suit I ordered recently, so I went to Oakridge to get it added; they say they don't have the machine for it onsite and recommended going to Modernize as they'd be able to do it right away. Went to Modernize for the first time, interesting place and funny guy (don't know which one of the pack I got - if anyone hasn't read the history of this thread, Modernize is run by a family group of extremely experienced Chinese guys). Put in a perfectly serviceable buttonhole and moved the fastening front button (it's a 4x1) a little bit at my request inside half an hour, charged me $25 cash (they don't take credit or debit). Slightly quirky air to the whole thing - the Italian guy who came in right behind me and spent 15 minutes laboriously haggling over $10 for some pant alterations (which I thought were already damn reasonably priced) probably had something to do with that - but overall happy with the whole experience.
     

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