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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Well-Known Member

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    I'm in a good natured argument with @in stitches, who contends that the Marlow WT would be somewhere between 0 and 2 on the "sleekness" scale. He puts it on par with the Adidas Samba.


    How would you all rate the Marlow's sleekness scale of 0 to 10, zero being the Samba and 10 being a Corthay Arca

    I'd personally rank the Marlow at 5, 6 or 7


     
  2. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    By sleekness do you mean just shape of the last or overall styling of the shoe and how chic it is? Either way, I wouldn't say Arca is a 10. Really though, in either case, the Marlow is closer to a 2 than a 5. And I like that shoe.
     
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  3. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    If looking for summer, what about a beige/off-white sport coat? Either in linen or cotton.
     
  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Well-Known Member

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    ^ I'm talking about shape of the last,

    What shoe would you put at number 10?

    The Samba is a 0 to me.

    This Trickers is a 2 to me

    edit: this pic is better

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. kulata

    kulata Well-Known Member

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    Somewhere in between the moccasin and the Adidas around 1.5
     
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  6. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Well the cardinal numbers on the scales are kind of meaningless, so I don't even know how to argue about it. G&G Decos are sleeker than Arcas I would say.
     
  7. in stitches

    in stitches Well-Known Member

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    This is a dumb argument. The Marlow is not by any standards a sleek shoe. Even a crack whore knows that.

    In summation, regarding understanding shoe lasts:

    Crack whore > jrd
     
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  8. jrd617

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    What do you mean cardinal numbers? I guess they should be 1-10 instead of 0-10.

    decos are pretty darn sleek. let's say a scale from Samba to Deco then. 1-10.

    Stitchy places the Marlow at 1 then

    I'd still say around 5

    [​IMG]
     
  9. jrd617

    jrd617 Well-Known Member

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    oh no you didn't...
     
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    I don't get the big deal about Marlows. They're nothing special looks wise or construction wise (self branded C&J benchgrade is cheaper).

    It basically looks like an AE shoe, but triple the price.
     
  13. jrd617

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    Marlow is MUCH nicer last than the AE Macalister or Macneil (the two closet shoes they offer)

    Also, much nicer than the Alden equivalent. Just has great lines, can't explain it if you haven't handled the shoe
     
  14. Mr. Six

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    I'd like someone to define sleekness with regard to shoe lasts. I genuinely don't know what people are referring to when they use that term, in part because I think that different people use it to mean different things. Which maybe means that no one can offer a useful definition. #selfdefeat
     
  15. unbelragazzo

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    I mean cardinal as opposed to ordinal. It makes sense to talk about one shoe being sleeker than another, but what does it mean for one shoe to be two points sleeker than another? I have no idea.
     
  16. jrd617

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    well, it's more of a judgment call, which makes this minor argument more interesting

    this argument stemmed from one of stitchy's SWD fits. he consider the marlow to be more SWD than MC, and I totally disagree there
     
  17. unbelragazzo

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    I don't just mean it's a judgement call...I mean it's a question that isn't even well defined. But I'm being kind of pedantic anyway. My main point is that no, Marlows are not very sleek at all IMHO.
     
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  18. MGD83

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    The marlow, build quality aside, isn't an aesthetically pleasing beauty. More of a utilitarian beater. Nothing special about it at all. It kinda looks like the Carmina forest last, maybe a tad more stout.
     
  19. jrd617

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    My intuition for judging sleekness is to first look down at the last from a bird's eye view. You can distinguish which have a more aggressive shape at the toebox.

    In the picture I put up, I think that we could all agree that the brown captoe is the sleekest, followed by the Marlow, then the Rancourt ranger moc, then the Samba
     
  20. The Noodles

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    JRD has small feet...[​IMG]
     
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