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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Well-Known Member

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    Probably looking at the French navy woolen from Fox for the jacket

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    Woolens

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    Worsteds
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  2. The Noodles

    The Noodles Well-Known Member

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    @jrd617
    Is the grey flannel Formosa worsted?
    @Murlsquirl
    I ordered 2 Hober ties in midnight blue!

    All,
    Asked wife her opinion: navy birdseye vs grey flannel. She was very annoyed and was like here we go again. But she said that the navy birdseye looks too similar to the blue glenplaid and the grey flannel looks better. She said it had a slight navy hue to which I responded by saying she's crazy.
     
  3. PCK1

    PCK1 Well-Known Member

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    BUY THEM BOTH.

    they are both staple items.

    don't do it behind your wife's back. put your damn foot down and make some sort of agreement/communication with her.

    sell it to her that if you get the items that you truly need then going forward in the future you won't need to spend. you are INVESTING in a wardrobe.

    and no more of this silly bs flip-flopping your mind and buying things you don't want/need then selling them.
     
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  4. jrd617

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  5. in stitches

    in stitches Well-Known Member

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    People really run their purchases by their SOs?
     
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  6. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    Nope, but I'll ask her opinion if we're out shopping together. I might not always agree, but I do ask. Nothing wrong with disagreeing over trivial matters like clothing. We both have our own styles, and that's cool. I might decide not to buy something if she truly hates it though, but that is a very rare occurrence.

    Noodles, perhaps she's a bit miffed because she feels clothing is getting too important for you? It's a fun and hobby and all, and it's nice to talk about it, but it shouldn't control your life. I suppose just not being on your phone around her should help lots.
     
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  7. Cleav

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    Mrs Doodals, our undercover secret agent :nodding:
     
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  8. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl Well-Known Member

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    Uh, negative.
     
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  9. in stitches

    in stitches Well-Known Member

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    In all seriousness, Noodles, kop this suit/suits, and then take a kopping break, like a month. No new items appearing at the house or sneaking in a package delivered to the office.

    SF at work to your hearts delight, assuming you dont get in trouble for that, but at home, minimal. Speak to the wife, agree on a set amount of time, maybe an hour total, and do not exceed it.

    Its very overwhelming for the wife of a new SF addict. Dial it back. Dont go cold turkey, that does not work and its not fair to you, you just need to find the happy medium. If you can do that, I assure you that you will find the wife far less annoyed with these things.
     
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  10. akoustas

    akoustas Well-Known Member

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    ^
    You'll also find that in waiting and buying quality items you'll derive far more satisfaction than continually stocking on so-so products. I know I discovered that after a few months of overspending. Waiting for one Formosa (and wearing it) is going to be way better than going to SS every other month. The Grey (should you choose it) will offer you countless combinations and is an awesome pallet to work with. You'll feel like a champ, instead of "getting by", and that's what quality suiting is all about.

    I took my SO to the tailor for my final fitting and she was blown away that men are lucky enough to get all this custom stuff and attention. Unfortunately she's an enabler now and is working with the tailor on my next commission.
     
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  11. ridethecliche

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    i think noodles should work a list of what items he needs for his cbd wardrobe and post it for you guys' scrutiny.
     
  12. in stitches

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    Yes. Thats a great idea. He can do that in 30 days.
     
  13. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    I run my purchases past my SO. Why wouldn't I? If she likes something, no problem. If she doesn't, we'll talk about it. Sometimes she'll convince me not to purchase it; other times she doesn't and I purchase anyway with her walking away muttering something about hating suspenders.

    I'd never purchase something without telling her I'm purchasing it. That sounds like a terrible idea. I'd be pretty upset if she spent a couple hundred dollars on shoes without having a budgetary discussion about it first.
     
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  14. mdancel

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    As I posted earlier I’m embarking on a new career where I’ll be wearing suits 5 days a week. I’m looking at methodically replacing what I currently have as I grow in knowledge. I’ve mapped out a budget and an overall plan. Thanks to those that gave input on that!

    It’s looking like 5 ties for this year. These will be my first ever quality ties. I’ve got a mixture of grey and navy suits (mostly grey and all of which I would like to gradually replace)

    I was thinking about these from Sam Hober for the first 5

    Navy Blue Reppe Silk Tie #11
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    White Dots on Dark Navy Pin-Dot Silk Tie #1
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    Dark Chocolate Grenadine Grossa Silk Tie #5

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    Macclesfield Silk Tie #134
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    Dark Burgundy Reppe Solid Silk Tie #5
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    Would this be a decent start to my collection? Anything else you would put in the 1st five purchase? I started with Sam Hober as they seem to get a lot of love on here especially for the price point.

    Also I would love to get some input on tie width. How would you go about determining the tie width to order. I am leaning towards 3.25” as I don’t have broad shoulders. I’m 5’8 and around 165lbs and am about a 38” chest.
     
  15. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    That's a solid start. I might throw in a green of some sort. But there is little wrong with that starting 5 assuming it meets your preferences.

    3.25 is a good width.
     
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  16. ridethecliche

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    If you can afford only 5 ties for the rest of the year, I'd go used and pick up stuff from luxeswap or NWOT offerings on ebay and such. Ties are a relatively safe bet for these things.

    Those all look gorgeous though!
     
  17. Sotiris

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    Those are all very good choices. I'm about the same size and build. I'd agree 3.25 is a good width. For me, I like 54" length for silk and 53" length for grenadines. That works well for FIH leaving both blades the same length.

    Most standard length ties can work well for me with DFIH knots though I have had some shortened and probably have a few more I should also shorten.
     
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  18. in stitches

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    I think that that is a fine policy, but I think its wrong of you to say without qualification that its a terrible idea to buy something without telling your SO (to be fair, I also made my comment without qualification, but I thought it was clearly tongue in cheek). I think it depends on stages of life, and types of relationships and personalities.

    Sure, when I was first married, and I had to think twice about buying a CD from Walmart, then I would always discuss larger purchases with the wife, and she with me. But at this point, I see no reason to. I have a decent enough job, as does my wife, I know how much money we make, and what I can afford to buy, and I purchase accordingly, as does my wife. She buys whats she needs for herself, the kids, and the house, and I buy the stuff I buy, both of us purchasing with the knowledge of what level of expenditure we live at, finically.

    Do we occasionally ask/tell each other about a larger purchase? Sure. Her more than me, but its not "to get permission," we are long past that, and as neither of us (ok, almost neither of us) are financially irresponsible, we each take of what we need/want to take care of.

    Obviously, this is all from a fiduciary responsibility point of view. As far as asking your SO if he/she likes what you bought, certainly there is nothing wrong with that. Personally though, my wife and I have very different tastes, an she buys what she likes and I buy what I like, and I think for the most part, we both look good. And we are happy to accept that just because I may not like her dress or she may not like my jacket, that does not mean we should frown upon it.
     
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  19. Claghorn

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    You're far more likely to settle with an approach like this. If you find something you love on eBay, then absolutely get it. But five ties I'm 100% happy with is, in my mind, better than 10 ties I'm 90% happy with. Especially if you plan on expanding your tie selection in the near future. On the flip side, if you're wearing those fives ties five days a week and will be doing so for the foreseeable future, maybe get two of your favorite Hobers, check out the sales at a few places (Yount, Mountain & Sackett, etc), and look to eBay to fill out the rest (maybe 8 ties in total)


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    re: telling SO's about purchases

    Generally, anything under 50 we use our discretion. Anything over, we run it past each other. We have shared bank accounts (at my insistence--a push back against the Korean style of it being socially acceptable for men to have a small separate account for any "fun" expenses...also shared accounts are just what my parents do, so I was shocked to find that many couples don't), so it isn't like I could hide anything even if I wanted to. But it depends on the couple. If a person feels no need to try and slip purchases by their SO, then there probably isn't any need to at least consult her out of respect. Since my wife responds with mild exasperation when I purchase ties or what not, I am sometimes tempted to slip a new tie into the closet just to avoid the eye rolling--so I make sure to talk to her before pulling that trigger.
     
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  20. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the same boat as Stitchy. It's probably because we are old(ish) and have been married for a while....13 years.
     
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