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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I meant my Sozzi is wool. Actually cashmere, I think.
     
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    Murlsquirl Well-Known Member

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    I never noticed and just checked, but yeah, I can see how it could be an issue for you "little people". Not bad for $40 though, huh?
     
  3. Isolation

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    How important is it to get a suit pressed professionally after taking out of storage? I've actually never specifically had a suit pressed, just let it hang and unravel. Am I missing out on shaping that a proper tailor press could give?
     
  4. Thin White Duke

    Thin White Duke Well-Known Member

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    IMO no.

    If your suit is dirty, have it cleaned.
    If your suit is wrinkled have it pressed.
    If your suit is neither of the above, wear it and leave it alone!
    If your suit is a well made canvassed bespoke suit it will be 'shaped' a lot better from you wearing it than by being pressed.
     
  5. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    So I'm to be a groomsman at a wedding (my first American wedding, at almost 31), and the groom has hinted at leaning on me for advice on what to wear. However, it seems like they already sort of something in mind for the groomsmen...and that amounts to jeans, a tie, and a vest. As much as I'd like to try and steer him in a different direction, their might be financial constraints for one of the groomsmen, so I may try to keep my advice to him focused solely on the implementation and then hope...hope beyond hope...that some force intervenes that allows me to escape wearing jeans with a tie and vest.

    I suspect I can push jeans to chinos, at least.

    Anyway. Advice?
     
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  6. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    I've been in that situation before. As I see it you have a couple options.

    1. Tell him that your expertise is more geared toward tailored clothing, so you don't think you can provide him with much help when it comes to casual wear. Whether this is true or not, it gets you off the hook and might gently steer him toward something less... Texas?

    2. Tell him bluntly that weddings are an opportunity to wear nice clothes, so why not take it? This may or may not change his mind, and you really have to weight the consequences. If he is not likely to take your advise about wearing something nicer then forgo this.

    3. Help him as much as you can within the constraints of what he has already suggested he wants to wear. This is my preferred option. So jeans, a tie, and a vest is never going to look good to many of us, but it can look awful. If he insists on wearing that combination then at least guide him in finding complementary colors, materials, and a good fit. You might not like it, but he will, and he will be grateful that his friends were there to help him.
     
  7. Isolation

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    Interesting. In the weddings I've been, the couple paid for the groomsmen and bridesmaids' ensemble (at least rental), though I suppose that is usually given back in wedding gifts. Can the whole ensemble not be fairly easily moved to chinos and vest instead of jeans and vest?

    Anyway I don't think it's too bad. If everyone has fun and enjoys themselves that's what matters. We only choose to wear nice clothes because we like it after all. Ignorance is bliss, as long as they're not gonna meet people who are going to judge them harshly or mock them.

    What kind of vests are they thinking of? What jeans? Are they coordinating? Both those things can vary by a lot. I don't think vest and jeans always looks bad, though I think jeans only go well with linen or tweed waistcoats.
     
  8. Claghorn

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    1. Something I definitely considered. 2. I don't think he or the bride are into clothing at all. Like at all at all. And money be an issue for some of the groomsmen. Otherwise, I might try and push for something a little dressier. 3. Like you, my preferred option.

    I don't know about vests and jeans. But if its the spring, I think a linen vest might be the way to go (as opposed to wool). Basically anything to lower the formality. Knit ties, linen vests...anything else?
     
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  9. Patrick R

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    Let's not pretend chinos and vests are a better option. Merely different.
     
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    Chambray button-down, I'd think.
     
  11. Patrick R

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    I was best man in a wedding earlier this year in which I was told the dress code was "forest business casual." The ceremony was in a clearing in the woods on a farm in rural Minnesota. I wore olive chinos, a blue chambray shirt, and chocolate brown suede boots and belt. I looked awesome, as always. And everyone was happy. You can help them look awesome in their setting too.
     
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    archibaldleach Well-Known Member

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    All of these "creative" dress codes that are in actuality anything but are just another symptom of the decline of Western Civilization.
     
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  13. Claghorn

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    I'd argue that, in general, the waning emphasis on dress codes as a whole is a good thing. On the other hand, some other shifts in emphasis that have accompanied this probably aren't as good.
     
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    I agree, the best thing is if there is no dress code but everyone still dressed excitingly and well.
     
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    Since we're on the subject of the Decline of Western Civilization, this was some pretty strict dress code as well:
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    And exciting....
     
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  16. Caustic Man

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    The HY knit. You can see how fine the knit is. Unlike any other I've seen. R Culturi square.

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  17. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    Is that the flat weave?
     
  18. Caustic Man

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    I guess. It was the only brown knit they had, whatever that one is.
     
  19. ramses smuckles

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    Guys, what are some RTW options for high-rise chinos? I'm not talking about the kind that you press with a front crease and wear with blazer and tie, but the kind you wear rumpled with an untucked shirt or polo.
     
  20. Thin White Duke

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    I have two pairs of high rise chinos by Levis. Not Dockers! One are the K-1 Crammerton which I had slimmed in the legs, the other was a vintage pair of aviator chinos off eBay. They are out there but you might have to dig around a bit. I understand the recently defunct Bill's Khakis were high rise and loose legged.
     

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