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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    @talalwallana

    First, whatever you wear, you should be showing A LOT less square than you are showing in any of those pictures. Anything cresting 2cm< out of your pocket is probably a bit much.

    Second, the second outfit looks the best out of all the options.

    Third, I'd go without the watch since your shirt cuffs get caught on it. Not a huge deal when this happens in general, but there is a pretty big discrepancy between each arm now; less of a big deal if, say, only a sliver was showing on the right to begin with. As is, there's gotta be close to an inch visible.
     
  2. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Well-Known Member

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    Breaking all the rules I once held dear

    Charcoal suit, brown tie

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  3. EliodA

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    Which rules would that be? Looks fine to me...
     
  4. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Well-Known Member

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    Charcoal doesn't mix with brown, or so certain 'fashion' authorities claim
     
  5. EliodA

    EliodA Well-Known Member

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    Oh, really, do they?

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    Could just be the lighting, but compared with Elio's, @sebastian mcfox 's fit suffers from a lack of textural contrast between tie and suit fabrics.

    It's not in any way a bad fit, just a bit boring. It lacks the pop which would be provided by a more textured tie.

    Also Elio, don't ever change those specs. They suit you perfectly.
     
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  7. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Well-Known Member

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    Tie is a grenadine, suit is from Suitsupply and...not my favourite. But it is a placeholder until I find something more exciting
     
  8. MrTRC

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    Elio's suit looks like navy to me which is indubitably the more natural pairing.

    Nonetheless, charcoal+ brown is an ok look. Not my cuppa but it works.
     
  9. EliodA

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    Thanks. I like them quite a bit myself, too. The double chin not so...



    The suit is charcoal. I agree that navy is the more 'natural' combination with brown.
     
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  11. Claghorn

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    I've never heard of no brown with charcoal, but agree the brown's natural partner is navy.
     
  12. kulata

    kulata Well-Known Member

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    So what's the natural partner to charcoal? Navy or Burgundy/wine? I prefer the later
     
  13. YRR92

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    I've heard crotchety old guys who dress with absolute confidence tell me brown shoes are beyond the pale with charcoal suits, though burgundy is allowable. I've had other, angrier old guys tell me that burgundy works with either and that brown shoes are only for shades of brown.
     
  14. venividivicibj

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    We're talking about ties, not shoes right?
     
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    I never opined either of the above, and I'm not that crochety. :satisfied:
     
  16. YRR92

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    Yes, but I've heard the case made against shoes more than ties. I think the crochety old guy rule for brown ties is just a firm "No," at least based on conversations I've had.
    Yeah, but you're not that old, either!
     
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  17. kulata

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    Ties

    But with shoes, black is still the most suitable color with charcoal suits. Next in line would be burgundy but very dark brown would work but I'd rather just wear black.
     
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  20. Isolation

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    Londoner here says black shoes are good with blue come onnn.

    I actually think black can work well even with lighter blues. The key issue with black is that it is sleek but lacks character, so you wearing black with a light blue that is on the bold side works better than the tan/cognac, whereas a light muted blue (esp in a rustic weave, twill, flannel, etc) like airforce or slate works better with brown.

    But I do prefer brown shoes of course.
     
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