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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Well-Known Member

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    Thats what I'm saying, thatthe US retailers are making the Euro shoemakers set resell prices so they can keep their margins, and not get undercut.
     
  2. Newcomer

    Newcomer Well-Known Member

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    Okay got it! We are on the same page :fistbump:

    For me though, it is less undercutting than just setting a reasonable price. For some reason, the prices for Carmina are just all over the board. Haven't seen another brand with such price discrepancies.
     
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  3. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Well-Known Member

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    Nothing like those $600 Armoury prices lol...for calf, no less.
     
  4. jcmeyer

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    The same pair of suede Carminas I bought on their site in June went up from $350 to $450. If they had always been $450 it's hard to say whether I would have pulled the trigger initially; maybe so. That price for boots seemed more reasonable.

    It's always hard to swallow a 25%+ price hike, but knowing it was to align with very few American retailers seems counterintuitive to me as a strategy if they are trying to increase their share of the American market. Outside of Styleforum, I don't know anyone who's heard of Carmina - at $350-$400 retail they could have taken on AE, TBNY, etc. and undercut Alden, which seems like a nice place to be for the quality they represent. At $450 - $600 they are a luxury brand without brand recognition from a country that doesn't have the same fashion prestige as many of its neighbors.

    But hey, I'm not running their business :)
     
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  5. OdusBK

    OdusBK Well-Known Member

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    I wish you were though.

    My current stance would be alden for boots and carmina for oxfords/bluchers. Is carmina quality really better than that of alden? If they're about equal then the added value of being able to see and try on the shoes just might put alden ahead of carmina for me.
    Would the 450 from skoak represent the grand total? (Or would taxes be added on top of the 450?)
     
  6. yanagi

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    I don't own anything from Alden. I can say that Carmina's finishing is noticeably better than AE's. If you're from the U.S., then $450 includes shipping and customs.
     
  7. jcmeyer

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    I've only bought direct from the Carmina site so I'm not sure about Skoak though I'm sure plenty of people who frequent this thread have.

    Direct from the site you don't pay shipping, but you will pay customs if you live outside of the EU or I'd imagine you pay VAT if you live inside it. Not really sure where that nets out but I can say customs on my $350 shoes was about $23 if memory serves. So more like $375 when all was said and done.

    I do think that online and in-person retail prices should be close to the same whenever possible, with sightly higher brick-and-mortar being understandable since you gain the safety of trying them on, have a close-by return policy, you're getting the service of the person helping you, and often you'll see make-ups in stores you can't get online.

    If Carmina's US retailers (I know of only two in all of California, though there certainly could be more) could regularly sell them for $350 - $400 and make a decent margin it seems like a win for everyone and more retailers would get on board. Then they can slowly increase pricing over time like everyone else. Again, though, they may have a very different strategy and wish to keep it extremely selective.
     
  8. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Well-Known Member

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    I believe the answer is yes, but I believe @Leaves could be of far more assistance than I...
     
  9. WhereNext

    WhereNext Well-Known Member

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    That green one looks great! What's the fabric number/designation, please?
     
  10. Bill Dlwgosh

    Bill Dlwgosh Well-Known Member

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    ^He's listing it as for sale. I don't think that particular tie is currently listed as available on the Hober site. I might have bought the green tie already if not for the hassle/expense of trying to have it sent across the border.
     
  11. WhereNext

    WhereNext Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I is dumb. Not a new revelation necessarily, but there you are....
    It's a great tie and I've been looking for nice greens and browns (on Hober!), so was wondering where that one came from.
    Thanks for cluing me in!
     
  12. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Well-Known Member

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    I missed out on that green fabric from Hober. Was really bummed to learn it would not be restocked.
     
  13. Mr. Six

    Mr. Six Well-Known Member

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    Folks should check out the LuxeSwap thread right now. Lots of Yellow Hook Neckties on sale.
     
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  14. Darkside

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  15. Cao Cao

    Cao Cao Well-Known Member

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    Will this work with the charcoal tweed?
    I wasn't ready for the shot. Fit looked good.
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  16. lordsuperb

    lordsuperb Well-Known Member

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    Ew!
     
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  17. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    lordsuperb has been a member of styleforum for six years and has less than a thousand posts. One of those is a terse remark on the thought of you paying money for that jacket. That means something.
     
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  18. Bill Dlwgosh

    Bill Dlwgosh Well-Known Member

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    I'd like seeing those pants paired with a solid deep mossy green jacket, Brown tie and shoes. Just thinking 'out loud' from the bar.
     
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  19. EliodA

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    Who needs BnTailor if he can kop beauties like that in his local department store? Works especially well with that shirt.
     
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  20. Cao Cao

    Cao Cao Well-Known Member

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    Someone just told me about BnT MTM in NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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