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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Well-Known Member

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    would you like one of us to design a collar especially for you
     
  2. EliodA

    EliodA Well-Known Member

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    @GuP that collar's too low in front and the points could be longer too.
     
  3. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    @StanleyVanBuren


    Wellllllll :D :slayer: :happy:

    Yes!

    Order is in for 5 shirts above and I just emailed luxire to hold off until I get the collar right]
     
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  4. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I was looking at the other collars and mine looks "small"
     
  5. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Well-Known Member

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    I need a full body pic including face in order to judge you


    also it will help determine what collar I think you should do
     
  6. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Well-Known Member

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    And tell me your height, weight, neck size, yoke size, and footwear size in Alden Barrie last
     
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  7. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    Are you pulling my leg or being serious? Hard to get jokes on the internet sometimes.
     
  8. Bill Dlwgosh

    Bill Dlwgosh Well-Known Member

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    He's obviously joking. If he were being serious he'd have asked for your footwear size in the Alden Leydon last.
     
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  9. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    haha but of course
     
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  10. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Well-Known Member

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    we're not going to know until/unless you deliver
     
  11. WhereNext

    WhereNext Well-Known Member

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    I have always seen dressing well as a sign of respect for my students and, as you say, for the profession of teaching and learning.
    Most of the "you dress too nicely" comments are (I think) their own concern that people will start expecting them to do the same. So I usually get the double whammy of "you look very nice" and "stop doing it". It's mostly good natured ribbing relating to the fact that my style of dress doesn't really "fit in". It's an interesting place to be considering the perspective it provides on lots of the advice given on SF: people really need to understand that what is "appropriate dress" is hugely context specific. I choose to subvert those standards sometimes, but I'm also aware of the potential impacts subversion can have on other aspects.
     
  12. SeaJen

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    Interesting discussion regarding teaching/research. I started my academic career with no interest in teaching and learning at all. I was about research and students merely interrupted progress in it. I've had only a handful of students really make meaningful contributions to my research program with the vast majority taking much more of my time to get things done than had I done them myself. With the pressure of publish or perish at one's back, those distractions become despised. As my career has progressed my interest in teaching and learning grew deeper and deeper and I sought training in it. I moved from my default of didactic instruction to more sophisticated and theoretically grounded instructional design leading to problem based learning, social construction, etc. Now as a department chair I really see the importance, at the institutional level, of great teaching and scoff at the lip service paid to the common refrain that research informs teaching. The best teaching is done, IMHO, at the small private colleges where teaching is the primary mission for all faculty. Research 1 universities hire and cultivate faculty too focused on research.

    As for the use of student evals of teaching I will cite one of my favorite authors, Russ Ackoff. When we cannot measure what we value, we will value what we can measure. In the systems theoretic view, we create a system where the incentive is tied to student satisfaction (enjoyment) rather than student learning, and are then surprised when the learning doesn't improve (or declines). The structure of the system influences the behavior we observe, so the only way to change it is to change the system. We cant do that with management by objective, only by improved leadership (an idea from my second favorite author, Deming). I know who is teaching well because I know what they are doing in the classroom, how they are setting and grading assignments, and how the students perform in subsequent courses. I can work closely with the faculty and help them develop because of this, not because of the evals from students who enjoy a good war story or joke. The difficult aspect is correcting behaviors of senior faculty who routinely score well in evals (and also exhibit laughable grade inflation - quite coincidental, those two, I'm sure).

    My 4c, anyway.
     
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  13. The Noodles

    The Noodles Well-Known Member

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  14. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    Delivering:

    Yoke: 16.75"
    Neck: 14.75 - 15"
    Ht: 5'11"
    Wt: About 165
    Shoe Size : 10.5D

    Face pic pm'ed

    Body pic

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  15. jssdc

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    Perhaps his bank account and social security numbers would also be relevant information?
     
  16. Darkside

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    I thought self-stripes were a no-no.
     
  17. Joenobody0

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    Don't forget penis size. You can't design a good collar roll without that.
     
  18. StanleyVanBuren

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    Ok @GuP , we are pretty similar. You appear to be just slightly larger all around than I am; an inch taller, shoulders slightly broader, neck slightly larger. You could probably wear any collar with similar dimensions to one of mine. But, you have a very round face that I think would benefit from a more medium spread. Also, your shirt is slightly in danger of being swallowed by the jacket but your neck isn't as long as mine so I wouldn't recommend you go for as tall a collar band as I wear, but taller than what's showing in your picture wouldn't hurt.

    Honestly if you still want a button down collar, I would go for the broke and bespoke model and feel pretty confident that would work for you. It has the right amount of spread, roll, and height for you.

    Otherwise, if you wanted a non-BD, here are the specs I would suggest: 3 1/4 inch points, 5 inch spread, 3/8 inch tie space, 1 1/4 front collar band height, 1 9/16 rear collar band height.

    And may god have mercy on your soul.
     
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  19. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    I'd say:
    Charcoal
    Then that navy flannel chalk stripe
    Between those two, get your dark blue odd jacket
     
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  20. GuP

    GuP Well-Known Member

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    Stanley delivering the goods! Thanks my man.

    Looks like the standard broke and bespoke model would be it for the BD collars.

    What about for a white dress shirt to be worn with ties? Request the Barbara BD collar from luxire and mention the specs you posted for me?

    FYI My face has actually chiseled up a bit. That pic was from a few months ago.
     

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