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GJ Cleverley Pigskin Leather?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Eustace Tilley, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Well-Known Member

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    Very cool - thanks Nick

    ET which or what are you planning to get?

    link or picture pls[​IMG]
     
  3. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Well-Known Member

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    ET which or what are you planning to get?

    link or picture pls[​IMG]


    No specific pic in mind - it'll be a slip on (side-elastic bands covered with leather strips) with a balmoral and a medallion on the toe.

    Will have to wait till the Spring though as GJC needs to do up a new last for slip-ons [​IMG]
     
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    Jeez... something else to add to my Want list.
     
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    Will have to wait till the Spring though as GJC needs to do up a new last for slip-ons [​IMG]

    You might want to check that with Cleverley's.

    I'm pretty certain a 'side-elastic' shoe is made on an ordinary shoe last,
    not on a last for 'casuals' (loafers) as the side-elastic shoe closes much higher

    [​IMG]

    than the average loafer:

    [​IMG]

    Equally, the 'elastic on instep' utilizes an ordinary last:

    [​IMG]
     
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    ^The last one is easily my favorite shoe style. I'm surprised it isn't more popular here.
     
  7. Eustace Tilley

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    Thanks Bengal. I shall check.

    ^JL has that style as a RTW model.
     
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    LOVE CLEVERLEY. They have some beautiful styles.........

    You might want to check that with Cleverley's.

    I'm pretty certain a 'side-elastic' shoe is made on an ordinary shoe last,
    not on a last for 'casuals' (loafers) as the side-elastic shoe closes much higher

    [​IMG]

    than the average loafer:

    [​IMG]

    Equally, the 'elastic on instep' utilizes an ordinary last:

    [​IMG]
     
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    LOVE CLEVERLEY. They have some beautiful styles.........

    Sorry - those shoes are not Cleverley. --- The pictures are from John Lobb, London (I should have mentioned that):

    http://johnlobbltd.co.uk/
     
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    Bengal, didn't Bic have a pair of derbies made up in a wild boar or pig skin?
     
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    Bengal, didn't Bic have a pair of derbies made up in a wild boar or pig skin?

    Don't know about Bic, but I have a pair of G&G (actually EG bespoke) in pigskin.

    I wouldn't pick that leather again. The English pigskin used for shoes is quite stiff a leather, unlike Peccary (which the Italians use for shoes) which is extremely soft and, more or less only suitable for car-shoe type loafers.

    I don't think (English) pigskin ages nicely, it has a card-board type feel to it (it doesn't drape well with a soft handle). I think it's a wonderful leather for suit- and briefcases, the classic ones, all square and hard. I have an Asprey (soft) satchel-type bag in pigskin, that one hasn't worn very well either.

    Another problem with shoes, you have to be extremely careful not to use to much shoe polish over the vamp creases. It just fills out the pores and when you start walking, the hardened wax, crumbles out.

    Well, the leather was my choice, but I wouldn't go for it again.
     
  12. Eustace Tilley

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    Thanks for the info Bengal.
     
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    Don't know about Bic, but I have a pair of G&G (actually EG bespoke) in pigskin.

    They were yours!! Can you post the photos?
     
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    They were yours!! Can you post the photos?

    Here is a picture of the unworn shoes:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Here is a picture of the unworn shoes:

    [​IMG]


    Yes, those are the one Bengal. I have always admired these.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Thanks for the info Bengal.

    i would be interested to hear, wyh a laced shoe would ask for a loafer last??? confusing
     
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    Bengal, those are bloody terrific!
     
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    i would be interested to hear, wyh a laced shoe would ask for a loafer last??? confusing

    Its not a laced shoe - I was going to ask for a pair with the side elastic thingys. Given that the design is technically a slip-on, I presumed (perhaps incorrectly) that a seperate last would be required. Will check.
     
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    ^ Bengal - I really like that pair. [​IMG]
     
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    Don't know about Bic, but I have a pair of G&G (actually EG bespoke) in pigskin.

    I wouldn’t pick that leather again. The English pigskin used for shoes is quite stiff a leather, unlike Peccary (which the Italians use for shoes) which is extremely soft and, more or less only suitable for car-shoe type loafers.

    I don’t think (English) pigskin ages nicely, it has a card-board type feel to it (it doesn’t drape well with a soft handle). I think it’s a wonderful leather for suit- and briefcases, the classic ones, all square and hard. I have an Asprey (soft) satchel-type bag in pigskin, that one hasn’t worn very well either.

    Another problem with shoes, you have to be extremely careful not to use to much shoe polish over the vamp creases. It just fills out the pores and when you start walking, the hardened wax, crumbles out.

    Well, the leather was my choice, but I wouldn’t go for it again.


    Here is a picture of the unworn shoes:

    [​IMG]


    interesting i had thort about something in the future my self but i am a bit worried by all plain fronted shoes should as these esp in crust leathers are the tend to have that noticable flaking over the creases in the vamp

    i must admit i dont use wax on my pig skin i just use saphir creams, but it is like you said is a a stiff leather but i find they wear very close to shell in that sense as mine have soften accross the vamp, but i have some samples of all colors available and the light and very dark browns are stiffer than the medium brown pig skins


    ps

    great color thro' those PT derbies[​IMG]
     

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