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Galaxy S4

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Piobaire, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. otc

    otc Well-Known Member

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    New to me, thanks.

    Looks like it will do everything I want just fine...hopefully the battery life is decent (and hopefully it becomes available on AT&T soon and for no more then ~200 on contract)
     
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  2. otc

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    Actually, I am not sure I understand the fascination with high PPI phones. I think it is great and absolutely a step in the right direction...but why is nobody clamoring for that shit on the desktop?

    I spend 8+ hours every day staring at a 23" monitor with the same number of pixels as the S4, giving it a ppi of 96. If I am perfectly content to do that for years on end, I can't quite see why people would actually be bothered by having only 3x that on the S4 mini. Yes, I hold it closer to my face than most people use their computer monitors, but I don't stare at it for hours straight. having ~3x desktop ppi on the mini vs 4.5x on the S4 just seems like fanboyish masturbation (the better argument would be for displaying 1080p content in native resolution, especially if you can connect an external display). I thought apple did the math and determined that the retina's 326ppi (~3.4x my desktop display) was about as good as the eye could see at that distance.

    Its good to push for it though. At home, I have a 27" monitor running at 2560x1440. This only bumps it up to 109 PPI (which is nice...but could be way better)...but windows doesn't deal well with it. W7 is better, but older windows really had no idea what to do with a high PPI display. Apple has tried to bring the retina brand to the computer-space, but its kind of a shitty transition since OSX also has a lot of trouble with high-PPI on most 3rd party applications...so the retina displays aren't the same as the displays in the phones.
     
  3. Jr Mouse

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    People are clamoring for them on desktops. Everyone knows that Apple is working on Retina iMacs and Thunderbolt Displays. It's very much on a lot of people's wish list to see this happen sooner rather than later. The only real question is how long will it take them to get that type of display tech at an affordable level matched with enough power to drive the larger, higher resolution, sizes.
     
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  4. otc

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    I dunno about that. People on tech sites are clamoring for them on desktops. And Retina is certainly helping push the masses there.

    But right now, the actual masses are still buying low res displays in droves. My dad had a dell laptop in the late 90s (PIII era) that had a higher pixel density than basically everything dell sells today. When people do get high res displays, they complain that all the text is too small, then they run it at non-native resolution so everything looks blurry.

    Its not like the hardware can't drive it. Integrated video on an i3 can push 2560x1440 without hesitation. Put that on a typical 23" display, and you've got pretty nice pixel density (I mean, it looks great at 27" and would be as good as the eye can see at 23"). The OS and applications are the real problem. Both OSX and Win7 (probably 8 too) do very well natively with high res displays...but 80% of the applications suck. And honestly, I spend all day looking at applications not the base OS.

    Also, websites get kind of messed up. You can blow up the text, but unless you enlarge the images as well, all of the fancy CSS alignment breaks. Blowing up the images works fine, but they can get blurry depending on how much you enlarge them.
     
  5. Ilovelobbs

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    Quote:What glitch did you experience on your i5? I sent my S4 back after 5 weeks for Samsung to repair. I had a 16gb memory card and used up all space on taking photos...so warning message came up saying there no disk space and I needed to delete files. So photos & files deleted - but the phone gets hot and battery drains within 3/4 hours of non-active use. .... Anyone experience this issue? Getting the phone back this weekend and Samsung saying they couldn't find anything wrong. I am yet to repeat the same test...
     
  6. Jr Mouse

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    Well there will always be a part of the "masses" who buy the cheapest options on the market. Those low cost options will be the last to make the switch. More so on PC as Apple will be the first and perhaps only computer maker to put these types of screens across the line. There will always be some cheap Chinese PC maker who will push a lower resolution rig at absurdly low prices.

    The current 27 inch iMac already has a 2560 x 1440 screen and Apple's Retina Macbook Pro is 2560 x 1600 for a screen that's only 15 inches. We can be assured that the resolution on a Retina iMac at 21.5 or 27 inches will be much higher than the number you quoted above to retain a similar PPI to be marketed as Retina at those sizes.

    Keep in mind that Retina for Apple doesn't just mean "high res," but is focused around a density that allows for the typical human eye to be unable to distinguish individual pixels at a certain viewing distance.

    I agree that the web has not caught up to these high resolutions. It will happen as technology improves and evolves.

    Sorry to drive the thread off topic. Just wanted to make these points.

    S4 looks nice, but honestly if I was in the market for an Android phone I would take a long hard look at the HTC One Google Play Edition. :)
     
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  7. otc

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    Grrr, *India* has an S4 Mini price and release schedule and still nothing for the US?
     
  8. Fuuma

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    Got the s4 anyway, will see in a week if I switch to iphone5 but the low weight is nice, surface is slightly big and functions are cool but require a lot of tweaking, I'll see in a couple days.

    shibbel: I must say I didn't look at the htc one, I was recently in Seoul so Samsung brainwashing must be working.
     
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  9. iamacyborg

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    Got the S4 after I lost my S3 last weekend. Pretty much just more of the same, though I like S Health.
     
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    Interested to hear if you keep it or not.
     
  11. hopkins_student

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    Just ordered a 32gb black S4 from Verizon. As soon as it arrives I'm rooting it and turning it into a Google Play edition.
     
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    Can you do that? If so, why ever buy the google play edition?

    I'm starting to come around to the S4. The mini doesn't look to be moving toward the US and the S4 is thin enough that I think it would still fit ok on a tight pants pocket. Would still be annoying that you can't reach the top of the phone with your thumb when holding it wiht one hand (with your thumb in position to be using the swype keyboard).

    I like the case/hardware of the HTC One, but the lack of a menu button is WTF...and I'm not crazy about sense.
     
  13. Fuuma

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    So what do you use to do local backups? Is there a good program to do it for contacts and everything else important?
     
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    Local backups for contacts and stuff? I've always just let my phones be synced to a google account.
    My images sync to dropbox with the dropbox app when I am on wifi.

    I've used Titanium Backup--might require root to be useful, don't have to have a custom rom, just root (which I think is easy on the S4). It pretty much lets you back up anything you want, but I don't even have it on my phone right now since all I care about are contacts and photos which are already synced. Don't really mind much if I lose my text messages and I can't think of any apps I have that actually store important data.
     
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    The Google Play edition is not available subsidized on a carrier contract. Said another way, you can use it while freely switching carriers as you prefer. Hopkins_student is presumably obligated to stick with Verizon for the next 24 months. That's especially useful if you're one of those people that is always upgrading to the latest phone. Btw, switching from a regular to Google Play edition is also possible with the HTC One.
     
  16. shibbel

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    He could also just go with Google Drive, you get something like 15GB to play with for all the Google services. I think Dropbox is something like 4-5GB.

    I use the ON{X} app along with the onx.ms website to set automatic backups of photos and stuff to Drive.
     
  17. iamacyborg

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    Samsung themselves have a pretty good app that backs up all your contacts and SMS messages, amongst other things. Then you can use Dropbox or G+ to automatically upload your pics.
     
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    huh?
    Did you root it already?
     
  20. hopkins_student

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    Yes.And running a bet slightly modified version of stock Android. But not the least bit of Touchwiz remains.
     

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