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French Tailoring Thread (e.g. Camps de Luca, Cifonelli, Smalto and etc.)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by poorsod, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. vinveritas

    vinveritas Well-Known Member

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    How many fittings does CdL do? And how long does it take to complete a suit from first measurement? And all of these in Paris, I assume? Thanks.
     
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    They will do as many fittings as needed. I had four or five but was quite picky on how high I wanted the armholes (orchestra conductor version).

    Then it takes approximately 2 months I would say and they do travel but not everywhere so you'll have to inquire.

    If in Paris, do call to stop by and have a discussion with Marc de Luca, a very fine man.
     
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  3. vinveritas

    vinveritas Well-Known Member

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    Many thanks, Seamaster Lux, for the info and your contributions to this illuminating thread.
     
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    Cifonelli has clients from all over the world, I'm sure you'll be able to communicate with them in English.
     
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    Cifonelli has an interesting operation in Japan. They have 4 showrooms in Japan (3 in Tokyo), probably more than you'll find in France.

    For their made to order suits, price starts from about ¥120K yen ($1200 USD) factory made in Japan, and ¥250K yen ($2500 USD) for semi-bespoke suits, also made in Japan. Of course, they also take full bespoke orders that are made in the Paris atelier, those cost ¥870K yen ($8700 USD)
     
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    That's what I would expect, given Japan probably has the most sophisticated men's ware on the demand side in Asia
     
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    good to know!
     
  10. Griffyndor

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    Lorenzo can communicate in English. No problems at all. You can also contact Romain at Cifonelli in Paris who speaks flawless English.
     
  11. mmkn

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    Do you think CdL can do four to five fittings in a week (well, except maybe in August when they're all on vacances) for an international visitor?

    Or would that be too hurried for quality?

    - M
     
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    Depends your relationship with the tailor shop. I am sure they can, but will they is another question.
     
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    Depends your relationship with the tailor shop. I am sure they can, but will they is another question.
     
  14. gambit50

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    That seems a bit much to ask. If you really want all the fine details plus the minutia of perfect fit, etc. being done and done within a week seems at odds with it.
    That said, they might be amenable but even with best intentions, having the work done on the quick and just not having a bit of time to to view the fit with a refreshed eye might hurt the final product. Would you at least be able to have a final fitting when the suit is completed with them? Or would you have it sent to you as is and your local tailor to make those adjustments(assuming any)?
     
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    A CdL suit takes 70 hours to make. Not sure it's realistic to expect one made in a week.
     
  16. dirnelli

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    Knowing CdL, that would not be their style at all to let a client walk away with an unfinished or imperfect garment. They would just as soon not do than do wrong -- they are not wanting for business and I have known them to politely refuse client requests deemed by them misguided.
     
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  17. mmkn

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    Thanks. I do not know how much of those 70-80 hours is fitting versus "finishing" the suit after fit is satisfied.

    I suppose I'll ask Charles de Luca himself someday.

    - M
     
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    Lorenzo speaks very good English and I have found Romain to be fantastic. I have really come to admire my Cifonelli garments. I have used Huntsman, A&S and Cifonelli. I find them all great, but they are all different. The handwork on Cifonelli is world class-- especially the stitching. Cifonelli, as many of you have said, is really in between Huntsman and Italian tailors. A&S is different, but equally worth it, in my opinion. It took me some time to get used to Cifonelli but I really admire it.
     

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