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Formula 1 - F1 - Current Season Discussion

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by idfnl, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

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    Sucks that the 2 drivers I like the least are in a 2 horse race for the title. Guess I would rather see Vettel than Alonso.
     
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    And Vettel is in the lead now. Hamilton gives up.
     
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    Not exactly giving up:

     
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    The excitement of the early season flux in performance has worn off. Teams have figured out stuff, the racing is more sedentary now. A bit more boring. Looks like Red Bull wont be caught. McLaren is nowhere, Ferrari wont have time to catch up.

    Kind of lame to be back to Vettel milking the gap at the front and coasting to a win. McLaren has really blown it. They should have built up a big lead by now, Red Bull could not have caught up.
     
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    Who'da thunk Massa would be pushing Alonso? I guess that team orders ban doesn't apply to Ferrari. Again.
     
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    If Hamilton's unhappy with his car now, think about what he's going to do with Mercedes. Force India was faster than Schumacher's ride today.

    The question is whether Vettel is a worthy champion if he does end up on top.
     
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    In my book, if you win the championship, you are a worthy champion. With Vettel, I'm not sure how there can be any doubt. Like Alonso, he seems to win if the car is capable of it. The Red Bull must have been quite a pile (relatively speaking of course) earlier this season.

    As for Hamilton and Mercedes, I remain depressed. However, at least he won't get his hopes up there. At McLaren, they give him almost enough car to win, but not quite. :D
     
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    Team orders are allowed.

    Massa was quicker, no doubt. He was told to back off.
     
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    Agree. The season is too long not to denote you as worthy champion.

    The element of variance is reliability. Most F1 is now bulletproof. In a way its great, but I do miss the occasional Alain Prost blowing up a Ferrari to allow Senna to take the win, etc. An occasional mechanical failure is not bad for racing. Granted there was a time in F1 where this was too much. I recall a race, I want to say San Marino, I dont know, where 6 cars finished. I think it was early/mid 90's.
     
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    I was about to say that in 2011 the team order ban was lifted because it's unenforceable anyway. The last poorly disguised team order was the 2010 race with Alonso and Massa and it came over the radio where they told Massa that Alonso was faster than him (which was not true) and asked him to confirm he understood.
     
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    Ah, didn't realize they'd rescinded that rule. I never agreed with it, but if you have the rule, you gotta enforce it.
     
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    i think they should not have any rules stipulating whether there should be team orders or not; since F1 is all about technicalities, developing cars outside the rules, bending the rules, etc., what happens if a team order is made but the driver doesn't obey? should he be reprimanded/penalised? it's stupid.

    the second half of this season has been great - it looks like it's going to be a climatic end to the season, remiscent of 2007, 2008 and 2010. by far the most impressive driver this season has been Raikkonen - hasn't won a race yet but is 3rd in the race.
     
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    India was truly dull. It's sad when the highlight of a race is a steering wheel change.
     
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    Couldnt disagree more. The 1st half of the season was probably the best F1 ever.

    Since midseason its been drab Red Bull domination again. Vettel leading start to finish 4 races in a row and you think thats exciting? Pretty boring.



    No kidding. Red Bull 1 - 2 again is really tiresome.

    By the way, the SMOG in India is just beyond belief. Its disgusting. That air was so dirty it almost looked like fog. F1 needs to reconsider this, last year was really bad but this year the smog was even worse. It makes the sport look really shitty racing in the midst of all that pollution.
     
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    .... Thought that was fog...
     
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    No, it was smog. Even worse than last year. Interesting, last year they made fun of it but were told to shut up about it this year.
     
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    Looks like Hulkenberg is heading to Sauber.
     

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