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Formal apology to TheTieBar.com + Wool Tie Review.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by acecow, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. acecow

    acecow Well-Known Member

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    I have recently made some remarks about thetiebar.com ties on this forum portraying them in a rather negative light. I was unimpressed with their skinny ties, mostly how they tie the knot and also in the quality of the silk. After posting my comments I have been contacted by Greg, the owner of thetiebar.com company. He was very polite and asked me why I was so negative about them and how could they improve their service. He also offered to return the money for all 3 ties I bought before, which I refused. After going back and forth via email he offered me to try one of their regular ties (not the skinny ones) for free and let him know what I would think. I accepted on the condition that if I liked the tie, I would pay for it.

    To make a long story short, the tie arrived yesterday and I must say I was very pleased with it. So pleased, that I decided to post a review on SF. I ordered a blue 100% wool tie, 3.5" wide. Below are the pictures of the tie. As you can see, the knot is pretty good and the material is very good for a $15 tie. Also, I've included pictures of a J. Crew and T&A ties for comparison.

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    I would like to apologize to thetiebar.com for my negative comments earlier and I'd like to take them back. After talking to Greg I realized that they are a small company and are very passionate about what they do; I respect that. I think their ties are a great value as long as you stay away from the skinny stuff. Of course, they aren't for big-timers, but the quality is there and I would recommend this company as a good starting point.
     
  2. acridsheep

    acridsheep Well-Known Member

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    My tiebar ties are all great. It is hard to get a good tie knot out of a skinny tie.
     
  3. GoldenTribe

    GoldenTribe Well-Known Member

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    Thumbs up for honesty and principles
     
  4. mink31

    mink31 Well-Known Member

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    I would not recommend them for knit ties, however. The weave they use is pretty strange.
     
  5. phailing101

    phailing101 Well-Known Member

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    My tiebar ties are all great. It is hard to get a good tie knot out of a skinny tie.

    Preach on. I usually do a double four in hand to make it work.


    Cheers to OP for being a class act.
     
  6. Threadbearer

    Threadbearer Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like great customer service, and it's good of you to tell us about it, acecow.

    I would not recommend them for knit ties, however. The weave they use is pretty strange.
    I'd like to hear more about this. In what way is the weave weird?

    I've heard several SFers claim that all knit ties are pretty much the same, regardless of brand and price. If that's true, then 15 bucks would be hard to pass up.
     
  7. mic

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    I usually do a double four in hand to make it work.



    Silly question: is this also known as a "Prince Albert" knot?

    If so, I've been using it on some of my skinny ties lately, too. I wish I could find a better solution.
     
  8. Marcellionheart

    Marcellionheart Well-Known Member

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    The Albert Knot is the double four-in-hand knot. Which is just the four in hand with another wrap around.
     
  9. inlandisland

    inlandisland Well-Known Member

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    I would not recommend them for knit ties, however. The weave they use is pretty strange.

    Strange how?
     
  10. Mudhiker

    Mudhiker Well-Known Member

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    yeah, I just ordered a couple of their wool ties as well as two pocket squares and am pretty pleased with them.
     
  11. Metlin

    Metlin Well-Known Member

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    Thumbs up for honesty and principles

    Indeed.
     
  12. phailing101

    phailing101 Well-Known Member

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    The Albert Knot is the double four-in-hand knot. Which is just the four in hand with another wrap around.

    Exactly.

    Just another wrap around which adds the needed bulk in the knot.
     
  13. mink31

    mink31 Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to hear more about this. In what way is the weave weird?


    Strange how?

    The tie I received had a much more flat, regular, diamond-like weave without the "nibs" at the edges. It's hard to describe and I can't take a detailed photo right now, but it looks much more machine-made to me. I'll take a photo when I have time.
     
  14. Tyrone MacStiophain

    Tyrone MacStiophain Well-Known Member

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    The tie I received had a much more flat, regular, diamond-like weave without the "nibs" at the edges. It's hard to describe and I can't take a detailed photo right now, but it looks much more machine-made to me. I'll take a photo when I have time.

    I own a navy knit tie from thetiebar. It's the only knit tie I've owned since Jr. High, so I don't have much to compare with it, but I like the texture a lot. My only problem is that it's longer than it should be - like maybe I got an extra long by accident, so it's hard to get the ends to line up right if the neck liner is in the right place. But I intend to buy another in grey or brown.

    Here's a close up that shows the weave. The color isn't close to accurate - the tie is actually a rich, dark blue.
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  15. stillerfan07

    stillerfan07 Well-Known Member

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    That shirt fits you pretty well. Sorry, random thought.
     
  16. bleachboy

    bleachboy Well-Known Member

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    I own a navy knit tie from thetiebar. It's the only knit tie I've owned since Jr. High, so I don't have much to compare with it, but I like the texture a lot. My only problem is that it's longer than it should be - like maybe I got an extra long by accident, so it's hard to get the ends to line up right if the neck liner is in the right place. But I intend to buy another in grey or brown.

    Here's a close up that shows the weave. The color isn't close to accurate - the tie is actually a rich, dark blue.


    Looks great to me. Also, my Brooks Brothers knits seem too long as well, so maybe this is just a "thing" with knit ties.
     
  17. Azzurri

    Azzurri Well-Known Member

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    My tiebar ties are all great. It is hard to get a good tie knot out of a skinny tie.

    +1

    I think the problem lies with skinny ties. I have a hard time getting a good knot out of mine too.
     
  18. TheWGP

    TheWGP Well-Known Member

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    Liking your principles there re: the refund and so on.

    I'm finding myself drawn to the fact that the narrow end of your ties is tucked into your pants. Just... yeah.
     
  19. unclesam099

    unclesam099 Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth, I have a few of them. The wool ties that I have seemed to get and stay wrinkled, but nothing a quick ironing couldn't fix. Also, I really like the knit tie from them, and will be ordering more soon.

    The only thing that I don't like is that they're made in China. However, that's where the price point is met, and for $15 vs. $38 BB ties (Made in USA; clearance price; also much smaller selection when on clearance), it's a tradeoff.
     
  20. inlandisland

    inlandisland Well-Known Member

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    Looks great to me. Also, my Brooks Brothers knits seem too long as well, so maybe this is just a "thing" with knit ties.

    It looks okay to me too - especially considering the price.

    (How does a rich dark blue look like a light beige-taupe... Are you trapped in Bizzarro World??)[​IMG]
     

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