1. Welcome to the new Styleforum!

    We hope you’re as excited as we are to hang out in the new place. There are more new features that we’ll announce in the near future, but for now we hope you’ll enjoy the new site.

    We are currently fine-tuning the forum for your browsing pleasure, so bear with any lingering dust as we work to make Styleforum even more awesome than it was.

    Oh, and don’t forget to head over to the Styleforum Journal, because we’re giving away two pairs of Carmina shoes to celebrate our move!

    Please address any questions about using the new forum to support@styleforum.net

    Cheers,

    The Styleforum Team

    Dismiss Notice

First tux

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by hopkins_student, Apr 24, 2005.

  1. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,218
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Forgive me for the use of the word "tux", but I cannot recall what the official term we've come up with was; I think I was reprimanded for using the phrase "dinner suit". Anyway, I've been informed that I can expect several black tie events next year, and during each subsequent year of medical school, and some here and elsewhere have suggested I buy rather than rent. I welcome the opportunity to buy a tux, but I'm curious what you would do for your first. I have decided on a single button peaked lapel (if only I liked shawl collar there is an awesome Brioni on Ebay) and I'm probably going to go with Zegna. Would you purchase a black or midnight blue tux? I am sort of thinking black for the first one, and then if I choose to buy another tux in ten years I'll get a midnight blue one. Also, do I need to purchase the waistcoat at the same time and what are the rules for the fabric of the waistcoat? I'm going to go with the three button (do you still leave the lower button unbuttoned on this style?). Do you think I should also buy a cummerbund? If so, what are the rules for the fabric of the cummerbund. I'm obviously going to go with black/midnight blue vest/cummerbund instead of some horrid colorful pattern. Thanks for your help.
     
  2. alchimiste

    alchimiste Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    577
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Location:
    a fine country
    Tuxedo in the US, dinner jacket in Mantonland.
     
  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

    Messages:
    33,324
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    Location:
    Moscow, Idaho
    Black.  Blue is cool, but hardly standard, despite the fact that some old dead dude preferred midnight blue. The waistcoat should strictly be black as well, but can have a discreet pattern. As a young guy, I would eschew the cumberbund.

    Join the dark side, wear your tux with a formal four-in-hand, a belt (some more modern tuxes come this way), and help me give Manton a heart attack.
     
  4. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,586
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Location:
    Paris, France
    black.
    single or two button, peaked satin lapel. I wouldn't go with a cummerbund or a waistcoat.

    luc
     
  5. cuffthis

    cuffthis Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    826
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Location:
    New Hope, PA
    There is a definite difference between blue and Midnight Blue, which is the color of choice. Midnight Blue appears almost black, but it not as shiney under artificial light. Don't knock it until you've worn it.
     
  6. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    41,568
    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2002
    Location:
    In Hiding
    It's very cool, but would you recommend it for a first (and for some years, only) DJ?
     
  7. mano

    mano Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    450
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    If you are a size 40R, you may want to check out this Isaia tux: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....37&rd=1 I'm not the seller, but happen to own the exact same tuxedo. Â The auction description indicates silk satin lapel, but mine has silk gros grain. Â The buttons on the auction tux show gros grain, so it's likely the lapels are the same. Â It is a gorgeous suit and my tailor loved altering it and fitting it with working buttonholes. Â The pattern is essentially imperceptible. Â I wore it last weekend and received two compliments.
     
  8. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,218
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Thanks for the link, but unfortunately I'm a US 46R, so a 56R/58R depending on the maker.
     
  9. dah328

    dah328 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,603
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    I agree.  Most people won't recognize that it's midnight blue.  It will just have a different sheen than all the other black tuxes.  My first and only respectable tux is midnight blue.

    dan
     
  10. cuffthis

    cuffthis Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    826
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Location:
    New Hope, PA
    (cuffthis @ April 24 2005,13:17) There is a definite difference between blue and Midnight Blue, which is the color of choice. Midnight Blue appears almost black, but it not as shiney under artificial light. Don't knock it until you've worn it.
    It's very cool, but would you recommend it for a first (and for some years, only) DJ?
    If it was exquisitely cut and the person has the overall style and self-confidence to wear it well, then, yes, I would recommend for their first and only dinner jacket. Otherwise, probably not.
     
  11. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,452
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    For a whileI had a midnight blue and a black, and I ended up giving away the black because I never wore it.

    For what it's worth.
     
  12. demo5

    demo5 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    150
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    For those of you who suggest wearing neither a cummerbund nor a vest, what do you suggest? Am I the only one who who thinks a tux looks naked without one of the two items?

    NEVER wear a long tie with a tux... it screams hollywood award show/clueless.
     
  13. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,452
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    No, you are not alone... on either of those points.
     
  14. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    41,568
    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2002
    Location:
    In Hiding
    No, I agree. At least when it comes to an SB DJ.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by