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Finding Bigfoot

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by idfnl, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    This thread has totally delivered. Several HoF posts here. We often joke about it but this is a true five star thread.
     
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    Agreed. Reminds me of when I worked as an overnight security guard to pay my way through college. I would listen to Art Bell and Coast to Coast to stay awake. Bigfoot was discussed many times on that show, but I think the level of crazed support for a fictitious creature shown in this thread is even better.
     
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    Coast to Coast was fantastic. I spent many evenings with it on in the background to listen to the crazies.
     
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    During Art Bell's tenure it was the most entertaining radio ever. Pound for pound there were more crazies on that show than on Howard Stern.
     
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  5. Piobaire

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    I remember Art Bell. A friend's wife used to listen to him and that's how I first heard him. I could only do 15 or 20 minutes but the mutts that would call that show were very special mutts.
     
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    Do you remember when he took that extended break from the show and then returned? I remember him being vague about the reasons why and it played nicely into the whole conspiracy narrative around the show.

    Non of the other hosts match up and the whole show lost something when he finally did retire. It's been more then a few years since I tuned in, but it looks as if it's still on the air. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
     
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    I remember the guy claiming to have worked in Area 51 that called in. Years and years ago this was. He started out calm, got all worked up, and then the station went off the air for several minutes...then he called back. The conspiracy theory is it wasn't the same guy.
     
  8. idfnl

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    Maybe on episodes of the 6 Million Dollar Man. I'd be very surprised if there were anything but a complex social structure. Also, many sighting reports are of more than one.



    Evolved to stay hidden may not be the phrasing I was looking for. Maybe expert at hiding for hunting purposes. Tigers have no predators and they are virtually impossible to find in the wild.

    It possible a human has been taken and eaten, who knows. I think its likely we're a threat.




    There are ancient native american artifacts which depict bigfoot in an anatomically accurate way. Also, its tribe to tribe in terms of exposure/belief.
     
  9. idfnl

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    That show is un-listenable. Unfortunately, shows like that make the topic radioactive to most scientists.

    I get that you are trying to humiliate me, Harvey. Having put my case forward to this extent, do you really think I care? So what I hope/believe Bigfoot is real, and that I believe irrefutable evidence will eventually emerge?

    Most folks posting are disagreeing but at least having some fun with it. And I started the thread knowing what I was getting into. This thread is good fodder for the fora, so try joining in without being so mean spirited about it.
     
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    :laugh: Yeah, it's a radio show scaring off the scientists from finding BF.
     
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    Not too great, nobody's found a complete T Rex skeleton yet (according to wikipedia)

    From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrannosaurus
    More than 30 specimens of Tyrannosaurus rex have been identified, some of which are nearly complete skeletons. Soft tissue and proteins have been reported in at least one of these specimens. The abundance of fossil material has allowed significant research into many aspects of its biology, including life history and biomechanics.

    Also, to give some idea why this is so:

    From Bill Bryson's a Short History of Nearly Everything:

    1. It isn't easy to become a fossil

    "It isn't easy to become a fossil… Only about one bone in a billion, it is thought, becomes fossilized. If that is so, it means that the complete fossil legacy of all the Americans alive today - that's 270 million people with 206 bones each - will only be about 50 bones, one-quarter of a complete skeleton. That's not to say, of course, that any of these bones will ever actually be found. Bearing in mind that they can be buried anywhere within an area of slighly over 9.3 million square kilometres, little of which will ever be turned over, much less examined, it would be something of a miracle if they ever were”

    Happy to be contributing to a 5 star thread!
     
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    Tell that to Jim Corbett! "Virtually impossible to find in the wild"? A century ago their range extended from eastern Turkey and the Caucasus to Bali; it covered most of the Russian Far East, Korea, large parts of China and Central Asia. They have been extirpated over most of that area, almost totally by human persecution. Somebody must have done a pretty good job of "finding them in the wild"!
     
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    You're doing a good enough job on your own.

    Actually agree with this. But you have to expect at least one person to call you an idiot. If a poster showed up posting about how he believed in the tooth fairy, the same would result. Or hell, just go into one of the monthly atheism threads.
     
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    Where people get called idiots for believing in the tooth fairy, good point. :)
     
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  15. idfnl

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    Ya ya, everyone knows you're one of the cool kids and I'm an easy target. Move on.



    Fine, but over and over again? His posts in this thread and that old man Piobaire are really just a proxy for their political arguments. If I was spouting the Limbaugh, they'd show appropriate boundaries. Pio is on ignore and knows it, yet he still trolls me around the fora with his petty insults and accusations of stupidity when I misspell a word or don't use perfect grammar, and god forbid someone post in one of his precious threads without his nod. Harvey wont be long before ignore, especially since he insinuated I was a pedophile the other day.

    I appreciate your point, but you are missing the bigger picture. They are showing hate because I don't share their political views. Just read CE, you'll see it. Pio the Mighty called for my banning the other day.

    Anyway, other than a few assholes, the thread has actually prospered.
     
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    Just doing a little calculation here. If deer are the primary prey of BFs, as is claimed above and there are 10,000 BFs in North America, the toll they must take on deer herds must be enormous. The usual statistic is that a mountain lion must kill one deer a week to survive. Now a BF must weigh at least 4X to 5X a mountain lion, if most estimates of size are correct. Let's be conservative, though, and estimate that a BF would need to kill and eat only three deer a week. If the 10,000 estimate is correct, then that would mean that BFs are killing more than 1,500,000 deer annually. You'd think wildlife managers would take some notice of the terrible toll these creatures are taking on our deer herds!
     
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    I considered that. Deer are not the only food by a long shot. Rabbits, racoons, fish, pine nuts, acorns, walnuts, berries, crustaceans, crayfish, roots. In addition, farm fruit such as apples, and veg such as corn and the like.

    Caloric requirements generally decrease as a function of total mass of an animal, probably around 5,000 per day for its size. Pretty sustainable. You're calculations are not taking this into consideration, nor are you taking account of variation in the diet. Its believed to be an omnivore.

    And 10k I suggested is a spit in the wind. It would need at very minimum 3k to have a breeding population. 10 is just a round number.

    Lastly, across the population, if it is 10k, many are young and not eating nearly as much.
     
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    Hah! :happy:
     
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    How would you know they're anatomically accurate when no BF has ever been found to be closely examined?
     
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    Because argument by assertion is all he's got.
     

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