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Filson Bag Thread: With Pictures

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by LawrenceMD, Aug 14, 2009.

  1. mgrennier

    mgrennier Well-Known Member

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    Guys.

    I did some math recently as I'm always in search of the perfect sized weekend bag. Here is my little spreadsheet that lists the sizes. I also included the new Meridian Duffle and their 48 hour bag:
    Brand Bag Name
    Model #
    Height
    Width
    Depth
    Sq. Inches
    Filson Sportsman
    70073​
    18​
    11​
    7.5​
    1,485​
    Medium Travel Bag
    70246​
    18​
    13​
    11​
    2,574​
    Medium Duffle
    70222​
    24​
    13​
    10.5​
    3,276​
    Small Duffle
    70220​
    18​
    10​
    11​
    1,980​
    72 Hour Briefcase
    70140​
    16​
    12​
    4​
    768​
    Meridian Duffle
    70344​
    22.5​
    12.75​
    8​
    2,295​
    48 Hour Bag
    70328​
    19​
    11.5​
    7​
    1,530​
    0​
    0​
    0​
    Frost River Curtis Flight Bag
    656​
    14​
    20​
    10​
    2,800​
    0​
    0​
    Floto Venezia Duffle
    SKU 18​
    21​
    11​
    10​
    2,310​
    Polo Canvas Bedford
    22.75​
    11.75​
    11.5​
    3,074​
     
  2. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Well-Known Member

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    for my 2 cents, I thing the green backpack is better. Darker so matches with more and won't show dirt over time, one solid colorblock versus the 'patchy' multicolored tan. As Filson is becoming more ubiquitous, I'd rather have a navy or green one, more subtle.

    Also regarding that particular backpack, in my opinion it's a pain to roll and buckle it every single time. I went with their 'normal' backpack in navy and enjoy being able to just zip it and go. Same reason I sold my 257 (besides that it was too heavy), it was the zipping, then closing the flap, then snapping the handle, etc. Took way too much fuss to open and close the damn thing.
     
  3. Churchill W

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    I don't ever zip up my 256. Just close the flap and snap it down.
     
  4. Soletrane

    Soletrane Well-Known Member

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    Mgrennier,
    I have thought about weekend bag vs carry-on before. The distinction is that the carry-on might need to hold my laptop, work clothes in Eagle Creek folders for a day or two, and supplies specific to air travel (NR headphones) or being abroad (more cables, adapters). For a max carry-on, I am probably looking at 2500 to 3000 cubic inches so something like the Meridian or the medium travel bag sounds perfect (the former too expensive and the latter discontinued).

    For weekender, I am thinking I could get by with far less space and a smaller bag because I just need casual clothes and maybe an extra pair of shoes in anything but winter weather. So I see your list in sort of this light - two categories. Anyway my two cents....

    (Also I calculate the medium duffle as nearly 3900 based on the dimensions provided by Filson. This jibes with my own experience as it being much more a checked bag than a carry-on - and brilliant one at that. As a weekender, I could see for skiing or wintertime climate, for sure)
     
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  5. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your input. It seems like everyone here so far voted for the Green Backpack Mr Porter edition!

    Well after much back and forth negotiation in my head, I too decided to go for the Green backpack! I should be getting it in a couple of days time and will share more photos when I get it! As well as any photos from my upcoming trip, if any.

    I agree. I'm looking for a bag that can really last a long time, and while I'm all for the rugged and worn out look, there gets a point (for me at least) where it is simply too worn out or dirty looking for me to use on a daily basis. This is why I feel the green might work with me better. However, I have used light gray or light khaki coloured bags in other (cheaper) materials and have never gotten them to that state of dirtiness, most of the time the bag tears or fails somewhere and I have to change to another. This is why I have decided to purchase a Filson bag which should (hopefully) last me a very very long time. I figured that if I really bash the Otter Green backpack, it will in due time fade to a somewhat tan/khaki colour anyway. Lol. (albeit a very very long time)

    I like my current otter green 257 I have for that same reason, it is subtle but if you know Filson, you know its a Filson. I hope I won't find the roll and buckle too much of a hassle in due time. I'm used to relatively troublesome bags and do just fine with the Filson 257. All my previous backpacks all included a tightened cord and a flap and buckles over it, so I think it will be fine! I found one of the ways to reduce the weight of the 257 is to change the shoulder strap to a Nylon version, feels much lighter and more comfortable to carry around!
     
  6. mgrennier

    mgrennier Well-Known Member

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    soletrane - you're RIGHT about the size of the medium duffle. I had a typo in my calculations. I'm going to try to edit the spreadsheet if I can.

    The actual dimensions of the Medium duffle is 3,795 square inches - (24.5 x 13.75 x 11.5) - according to Filson's website.

    Thanks for the correction
     
  7. mgrennier

    mgrennier Well-Known Member

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  8. patrick_b

    patrick_b Well-Known Member

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    Same here unless it's going through TSA X-ray.
     
  9. Soletrane

    Soletrane Well-Known Member

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    What's your criteria for a weekender? Capacity? I think the medium travel bag - which I believe you have - is a great weekender. Best compromise between capacity, pockets, price and accessibilty to interior. Only downside, imho, is a boxy shape when stuffed and the fact that it is discontinued.
     
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  10. ap10046

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    Hi lads..I know i'm probably going to get a bit of grief here, but how does one keep stains/rubs away from the tan bags? I just don't like them looking gnarly. My 257, 222 and 240 are picking up some horrible stains, especially on the bottom, with the 257 and 240 having their backs becoming all shiny and shit..!
    I've tried brushing with a stiff bristled brush, "shampooing" the offending area, but it just seems to become worse..
    Patina, to me, looks awesome on leather, just not on canvas, especially to work.
     
  11. mgrennier

    mgrennier Well-Known Member

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    Soletrane - you're right in that the Medium Travel bag is a great size for a weekender. The boxiness of the bag is not my favorite. I'm considering selling it and trying out the Meridian duffle or the 48 hour bag.

    I actually like when my weekend bag is a bit smaller than I think I "need" because all I end up doing is overfilling it with stuff I really don't need. I like the Frost River Curtis bag, but it's a good example of being just a bit too big for a "weekender".

    In the summer time I've used my Sportsman because it forces me to pack less, which I think is nice.

    The sad thing is that I'll think I'll always be searching for the perfect weekender bag.

    I guess it's kind of like women and their purses.
     
  12. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the same boat as you. While I like overall patina on the bag, including some lightening and patina in the colors, i'm not too keen on patches or specific stains (which tend to just make the bag look uncared for or dirty) Of course this is all personal opinion.

    I have some stains from rubbing on my raw denim and from what i've read, the best way is to clean it off as quickly as possible. I did that with some wet wipes and later used plain water to clean it and tissue to dry it off. the stain from the denim came off easily. But given that my bag is otter green, i think that also has a part to play because the darker color hides stains better.

    I'm not sure about stains which have been left there for long, and about the surface becoming shiny but I too would be interested to find out.

    Shouldn't it be the case that this 22oz rugged twill is MORE resistant to stains than other cheaper bags (with standard nylon etc.)? I have some cheaper sling bags which don't pick up denim stains, but my 257 in Otter Green has noticable denim stains after just 3-4 days of use. I would think that the 22oz rugged twill being waxed and water-resistant should be adverse to picking up stains easily. but please correct me if im wrong.
     
  13. Soletrane

    Soletrane Well-Known Member

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    There is sort of an Internet consensus that the Filson travel bag is their best carry-on/weekender, but I always had my doubts if you have to carry a full bag any distance as a boxy shape is sub-optimal when walking. I think a more vertical, narrow orientation like the Meridian is much easier to carry based on my own experience.

    I have the older Sportsman. I have used it successfully for a week long beach trip. The internal dividers keeps clothes organized and neatly stacked. Though once you start putting a laptop, power cords, an extra pair of shoes or a sweater though, it gets stuffed really quickly. But I agree with you that a moderate sized bag - like the 48hr - enforces a certain discipline about taking only what you need.

    Re: women and purses. As an aside, having kicked a very long and expensive wristwatch habit, I realized for those people who are always "in search of the perfect X" (like me) - the more you forum post, the more you buy and pretty much get diminishing marginal returns on satisfaction on each successive purchase. Once I just stuck with one watch and used the hell out of it for years, the satisfaction came. It's probably the same with bags, I am just earlier in the life cycle ;-).
     
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  14. Soletrane

    Soletrane Well-Known Member

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    Illition,
    I think it has less to do with the quality of the materials than the nature of the materials. Twill, untreated leather and other organic materials tend to be more absorbent of dyes, stains than even cheap nylon.

    This is easy to see with my tan sportsman after just months of use - on the bottom surface that touches the ground. My otter green large carry-on has seen much more use including being checked luggage and I would have to inspect closely to see dirt or stains. My moss green (darkest of all and heavily waxed) medium duffle is checked regularly and still almost looks new. Lesson learned for me: go darker for checked bags and heavier use.
     
  15. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    Soletrane,

    Thanks for the reply! It sounds like my otter green 257 shouldn't do too bag then since I will never have it checked anyway. But my tan small duffle might. I guess I will learn to love the patina.

    On a side note, does anyone know anything about the stretch of bridle leather on Filsons? Do they tend to stretch? Referring to my earlier post, I finally got my Filson green roll top backpack mr porter version. However; even tho the bag is really amazing, I really wished the shoulder straps were Abit longer. [​IMG]


    As seen from the photo, the bag sits very high up on my back. I know that these bags should sit higher up so that the weight is well distributed and I try to do this with my backpacks, but for this particular Filson, it sits too high for my liking and it Abit uncomfortably tight. I am confused because this is already on the very last hole on the leather loop and I can't make it go any longer. I have considered punching another hole but then the loose end may not be long enough to stay in the buckle and give a tight hold.

    I have been loading my backpack full and trying to hang it off a chair to "stretch" the leather. I have also applied some mink oil to try and accelerate this process and I heard that a mixture of rubbing alcohol and water can help stretch the leather. However I've also read some articles that bridle leather doesn't tend to stretch at all.

    From those who have owned Filsons for a long time, do you feel that the bridle leather tends to stretch, even slightly? I have 3 Filsons but they are all only lightly used and owned for less than a year so I don't know how the bridle leather ages just yet. Or if anyone knows any method to stretch the bridle leather ever so slightly; even a couple of cm. I would appreciate any input!

    Cheers!
     
  16. milw50717

    milw50717 Well-Known Member

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    Call up Filson and see if they offer them with longer straps or if they sell (or can fabricate) extension straps similar to the below.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the input! Thats a suggestion thats very helpful that i never really considered.

    I called up Filson London and they say they don't sell anything of the sort at the moment, but I could probably try Filson headquarters in the US.

    One option i'm looking at is using the Leather shoulder strap (from my 257) and my small duffle. And cutting the leather, punching holes, to make the extension myself which will be made of the same Bridle Leather Filson uses. so that it keeps the consistency.
     
  18. Churchill W

    Churchill W Well-Known Member

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    I was at the Filson NYC store with my 261 and a sales associate (B) pointed out to sales associate (A) that my 261 looked like a miniature version of the bag. Sales Associate A said the straps on the 261 stretch and the rugged twill shrinks.
     
  19. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    I think this is the method I will be going with. I have these leather straps from my 257 and 220 and have attached them as such.

    I will then cut the strap and punch holes to fit into the buckle loop! I know many might think I'm crazy for doing this mod but I feel the bag will fit me a lot better by extending the strap this way. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  20. illition

    illition Well-Known Member

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    How long have you owned the 261? Strange, i've never heard of rugged twill shrinking before. But I wouldn't mind anyway since the 257 and Rolltop backpack could be slightly smaller.

    With the method I put above, I will be able to have long straps without compromising the bridle leather by stretching, and if they ever do stretch naturally, I can always remove the additional bit, or shift it up the holes.
     

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