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Field / Barn Coat...

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Jay687, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. Jay687

    Jay687 Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking to get a field coat or barn coat and narrowed it down to the following options:

    LLBean Original Field Coat:

    http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/18214?feat=593-GN1&page=original-field-coat-cotton-lined

    LLBean Signature 1947 Field Coat

    http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/65099?page=beans-1947-field-coat

    Jcrew Barn Jacket

    http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/...~all~mode+matchallany~~~~~barn coat/99946.jsp

    Filson

    http://www.filson.com/products/antique-tin-cloth-barn-coat.10054.html

    Does anyone have experience with any of them?

    I'm a small guy so looking to get something that is slim fitting, especially in shoulders. I've bought Bean flannels in small and the shoulders were too big. I've since stayed away. The signature version, which is much more expensive, is supposed to be more slim.

    At that price point, the Filson seems better? But don't know the sizing.

    The worry on the Jcrew jacket is that the material won't really be durable.

    Also, might be silly, but having an internal pocket is important. It's where I always keep my wallet and I really would like a jacket to have one.


    What do you guys think?
     
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  2. Todd V

    Todd V Well-Known Member

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    Filson stuff is great but will not be slim fitting -- quite the opposite.
     
  3. meso

    meso Well-Known Member

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    All those listed will fit terribly...
     
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    colabear Well-Known Member

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    The Filson in navy looks nice
     
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    Both are meant to be loose fitting garments.
     
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  7. wj4

    wj4 Well-Known Member

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    +1. Field jackets are not suppose to be slim fitting like suit jackets. The extra space allows for layering. I have the J. Crew one and I love it. I've been looking for a field jacket for a while, but don't want to spend more than $200 for one.

    I'm also a relatively small guy at 5'9'' and 155 lbs.
     
  8. meso

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    Yeah you guys are right. Nobody has ever made or desired a slim-fit field jacket :nest:
     
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    I assume you are not looking for a true military one those are easily found in your size as most soldiers weren't wearing XL or XXL back then.
     
  11. Jay687

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    Thanks for replies guys. It's not that I want it to actually be slim fitting. It's more that I'm a small guy (5'4" 130 lbs) and as such I need it to be relatively slim fitting. It really is the shoulders that are the issue that I'd have. At 130, I'm not stick thin or anything (38" chest), so room to layer is fine with me. And although sometimes extra length on things is frustrating, I don't mind here.

    I just know LLBean small flannels don't even fit my shoulders. So if it's the same with their jackets and the same with Filson, then I can't really wear a jacket like that. do either company give shoulder meaurements on their stuff?


    For the guy who has the Jcrew jacket... how is durability? I might try to stop by a store and see if it's there. I suspect it's thin because their W&B version says heavy duty... so they probably want you to be that one for the tough/durable one (and charge you $300+!).


    And the Orvis looks nice. If both it and the Filson are not slim fitting... which would you prefer? I feel as if Filson wins out on toughness and what not.


    I am thinking that the Bean signature coat could have the slimness AND the toughness. Not quite as tough as a Filson or Orvis... but tougher than Jcrew.


    Decisions...
     
  12. wj4

    wj4 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, I'm just going to wear that to the office and run errands. I'm not going to go hunting in the wilderness or anything.

    OP: Have you thought about shopping for boys' clothes? I have a friend who is pretty short, like 5'4'' or 5'5'' and he buys stuff from Gap Kids, all fit him pretty well especially outerwear.
     
  13. Todd V

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    Jay -- I'm the same exact height and weight as you. I've tried all sorts of Filson stuff. Smalls in the models that come in S-M-L and 36 in the sizes that come by chest size. All were HUGE. I haven't found an XS to try but they are rare. I've seen a few pop up on eBay but haven't taken the gamble yet. I'm like you and have big shoulders. The only piece of Filson outwear I actually have is a Tin Cruiser size 38 that someone shrunk in the washing machine.

    I would think a Jcrew or Lands End or LL Bean in size Small would be find for you if not a litte bit roomy. I've worn Jcrew outwear and it was fine.

    PM me if you want to swap some clothes.

    Todd V.
     
  14. Jay687

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    That's unfortunate that those clothes fit too big. My problem is actually shoulders too large. I do have average / well-sized shoulders for my height and most smalls fit me, just not these generously sized brands. Why they don't consider XS when they size everything so large is beyond me.


    In terms of boys clothes, can't do that. My chest (and although my shoulders aren't huge, I'm not scrawny either) is far too large. As a result, XS doesn't usually fit me as well either. So, kids clothing, which generally borders on the verge of Men's XS, is definitely small. It's just cut for someone that is entierly too thin. I'm a fairly muscular 130 pounds, I'd need to be like 110 - 115 pounds (jockey size or something) to fit into boys clothing. If it worked, I'd do it... since it'd be cheaper too!

    But ultimately, I actually fit well into smalls in most brands. Sure, if they aren't at least considered "slim" they will be baggy on my waist, but that'd be the case if I were taller as well. The main issue I have is the length of the body of shirts, for most things, not a big deal, honestly, some tees and stuff are cut too high on taller people anyway. And sleeves are a definite issue. I never understood why companies made "tall" for people who needed extra sleeve length, but not "short" for those overwhelmed with sleeve length. Especially for dress shirts. I've wanted to press that issue with companies like Jcrew. Maybe if people did they'd make men's "short" and all would be well.

    Anyways... looks lke Filson / Orvis are out. But perhaps the signature Bean still would work? And of course I kow Jcrew would fit... but durability is my issue? To the person who has it, how thick / durable is outter fabric?
     
  15. CEE88

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    I wear a size 42 jacket and have a Filson Mackinaw Cruiser size 40 that fits quite well. Before you toss all Filsons out of the running, perhaps you might visit a Filson shop or an Orvis store that carries Filson, and try a few on. Here's a jacket that comes in size 36: http://www.filson.com/products/fore...sProduct=mens/coats-jackets&fmetaProduct=1011 It's $335 but it's made in USA & quite a bit nicer than some of the options you're considering. Another option is Pointer Brand: http://www.pointerbrand.com/index.php/jackets-coats/brown-duck-chore-coat.html Or here: http://www.handeyesupply.com/products/pointer-brand-white-drill-denim-chore-coat
     
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  16. Jay687

    Jay687 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for those references. Gonna look into those brands and try to locate Filson store perhaps. I've emailed them about measurements, hopefully they can give those to me.

    I spoke with Jcrew and Bean and was enlightened regarding Bean's regular line. honestly, it goes along with the flannels i ahd bought. I don't get how they can have over 20" shoulders on a size small. That's outrageous. 17.5-18.5" should be shoulder size for a small. Base it off of, say, 38 jackets, which would never have 20" shoulders! That should be a medium, like a 40 jacket and so on.

    Anyway, incase anyone cares (all size small):

    Bean Original (it's basically huge... or a medium. I don't really get why they do this and then proceed not to even make XS. They are losing out on potential customers)

    Chest 45"
    Sweep 43"
    Sleeve Length 34.25"
    Length 31.5".
    Shoulder 20.25"


    Bean 1947 Field Coat (sized well - a bit more trim than the Jcrew in fact)

    Chest 42"
    Sweep 41.5"
    Sleeve Length 34.75"
    Length 30.25".
    Shoulder 17.75"

    Jcrew Barn Jacket (not as trim as the Bean above, but assumably fits well)

    Length: 29.5"
    Chest 43.25"
    Waist 41.5"
    Sweep 42"
    Sleeve Length 34.75"
    Shoulder 18"

    W&B (Jcrew) Angler Jacket (Gotta pay $328 for it, but it is also sized well, says "heavy duty canvas" and shorter length probably would work well for me honestly):

    http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/outerwear/wallaceandbarnes/PRDOVR~97387/97387.jsp

    Length 27"
    Chest 42"
    Waist 41.5"
    Sweep 41"
    Sleeve Length 34.375"
    Shoulder 17.75"


    And still looking into the Filson. Also asked about their ranch jacket (which is a shorter coat). I would consider the other Filson you referenced, but I believe it's oiled and not looking for the waxed cotton, just looking for "dry" finish. The Jcrew jackets benefit from this. As do the Filsons I am looking at. The Bean, I believe is waxed because the British Millerain is a waxed cotton. It makes it harder to clean, the finish needs to be reapplied and it ultimately isn't even THAT water resistant (not waterproof, that's for sure) so not worth the trouble in my eyes. Honestly, I might go with the Bean now if it weren't for the waxed cotton. If Filson is sized well... might go with that though. And oherwise could consider that Jcrew Angler jacket. Maybe I can find a 20% coupon and get it for like $240.... that would be far more reasonable.
     
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  17. CEE88

    CEE88 Well-Known Member

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    Filson's Forestry Cloth Cruiser is made of wool. Those Bean and Crew "Wallace & Barnes" coats are okay, but it's not worth $328 for an "Imported" cotton jacket. Those are jackets you look at when they're 30-50% off. I know you want proper sizing. I just can't help thinking there are better quality options out there - Filson, Pointer Brand, Woolrich Woolen Mills, Engineered Garments, Post Overalls, even vintage http://www.etsy.com/listing/1087405...type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_search_type=all
     
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