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Exercise Question & Answer

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by db_ggmm, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. db_ggmm

    db_ggmm Well-Known Member

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    Since I invariably have a question I seek advice for each week, I'm going to use this thread. Maybe others would like to use it, too.
     
  2. db_ggmm

    db_ggmm Well-Known Member

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    One 5x5 work out each week is in the "morning" for me, shortly after breakfast. Not sure what to eat for this for performance. I usually get a cup of coffee in me, sometimes I eat yogurt or egg beaters or nothing, and I tend to find this once a week morning work out more difficult than mid day work outs.


    I feel my deadlifts are stalled at 200 lbs due to grip strength. Should I work on grip strength or is it simpler to assume deadlifts are improving my grip well enough on their own?
     
  3. jarude

    jarude Well-Known Member

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    Just eat a full meal before the gym, don't overthink it. try a mixed grip or do some farmer walks or something.
     
  4. bobdobalina

    bobdobalina Well-Known Member

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    My anecdata shows that a fatty breakfast is the best fuel for a midmorning workout. Try sausage and eggs with a cuppa coffee.
     
  5. rjmaiorano

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    One 5x5 work out each week is in the "morning" for me, shortly after breakfast. Not sure what to eat for this for performance. I usually get a cup of coffee in me, sometimes I eat yogurt or egg beaters or nothing, and I tend to find this once a week morning work out more difficult than mid day work outs.


    I feel my deadlifts are stalled at 200 lbs due to grip strength. Should I work on grip strength or is it simpler to assume deadlifts are improving my grip well enough on their own?


    Likely in the minority here, but if I have a hard, morning workout I probably won't eat anything in the morning, but a lot the night before. I will always have a whole load of espresso or coffee in me. IMO eating before a workout is unnecessary. If I eat the night before, I'm well digested and can get up and go.

    This works better for distance/semi-distance work. If the workout is 1hr+ I'd say eat some fruit.

    Grip strength = rock climbing. period.
     
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    I don't know how you guys can workout without eating, especially on big compound lifts like 5x5. I try and deadlift with an empty stomach and I just can't bring any effort into it.
     
  7. rjmaiorano

    rjmaiorano Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how you guys can workout without eating, especially on big compound lifts like 5x5. I try and deadlift with an empty stomach and I just can't bring any effort into it.

    IMO opinion it is mental. You are used to having food in you. You aren't 'hungry'. But you have an appetite that is expecting food that you probably don't need.

    ... I do agree that compound lifts are tougher to push through and depending on goals likely require food. But they are doable IMO. Almost all of my morning workouts are aggressive, hill-heavy trail runs and my legs very rarely feel weak in the sense that they need more energy.

    My turning point in thinking food was necessary to working out was a 8 mile out-and-back trail run at just under race pace where I had a crash at the turn. No food in the stomach and another 4 miles to go I felt like I was going to collapse but said screw it, just go. The next 5 mins were hell and a little slower. But the crash passed and I finished the run as strong as I started. It was a nice mental barrier to cross.
     
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    jarude Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't run if I tried after eating. Lifting is a totally different story for me, though I do agree it is mental.
     
  9. Flambeur

    Flambeur Well-Known Member

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    I agree, if I do something in the morning, I prefer (at least a semi-)fasted state. Once you break the mental barrier, it's fine. The whole lean, mean thing is true - I've accomplished amazing things before on an empty stomach, from great runs and lifting, to actually producing good work. Start eating and it just slows you down, makes you sleepy again, etc.

    I actually feel that the sugar levels are crucial for me in the morning, an inappropriate carb-rich item can make me sluggish for hours.
     
  10. db_ggmm

    db_ggmm Well-Known Member

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    What is the truth about protein absorption per meal?
     
  11. why

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    What is the truth about protein absorption per meal?

    It gets absorbed.
     
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    How long should I wait after eating to work out?
     
  13. Rosenberg

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    theres nothing mental about it. im not saying you cant grind through a tough workout having only eaten the night before, but by then all of the carbs that you didnt use (almost all of them in this case) for energy will have been converted into glycogen and stored in your muscles making the energy source less bioavailable. by eating a decent breakfast, which should be one of you bigger meals, about an hour and a half before your workout your body will be primed for action. eating a lot at night and nothing in the morning is pretty much ass backwards from what would be ideal for someone wanting to maintain lower bodyfat levels. a decent breakfast could consist of a variety of foods, but this is the one meal that you want to contain a fair amount of carbs, plus lots of protien and healthy fats from foods like peanut butter (not sausage) which should be in all of your meals
     
  14. Rosenberg

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    How long should I wait after eating to work out?

    1 1/2-2 hrs plus is ideal for solid poods to be digested. stuff like smoothies, give it an hr or so
     
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    I sometimes feel sick to my stomach after working out. What would be the cause of this?? I do take NO Xplode approximately 30 minutes before I work out.
     
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    1 1/2-2 hrs plus is ideal for solid poods to be digested. stuff like smoothies, give it an hr or so

    i dont think food takes that fast to be digested though. iirc i remember reading somewhere that it takes longer than that.[​IMG]
     
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    i dont think food takes that fast to be digested though. iirc i remember reading somewhere that it takes longer than that.[​IMG]

    maybe if you eat an american sized serving i.e. 3x more than you should be eating at a serving
     
  18. Rosenberg

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    I sometimes feel sick to my stomach after working out. What would be the cause of this?? I do take NO Xplode approximately 30 minutes before I work out.

    well the possibilities are too numerous for anyone to speculate over the interconnect without a lot more info. i can tell you to lay off the NO explode or any other NO product for that matter. there is no concrete proof that they do anything for you. in fact most studies real studies show its pretty worthless. i could talk for hours about supplements, but there is a lot of caffiene in NO explode which causes dicomfort to some if youre not used to that amount
     
  19. rjmaiorano

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    theres nothing mental about it. im not saying you cant grind through a tough workout having only eaten the night before, but by then all of the carbs that you didnt use (almost all of them in this case) for energy will have been converted into glycogen and stored in your muscles making the energy source less bioavailable. by eating a decent breakfast, which should be one of you bigger meals, about an hour and a half before your workout your body will be primed for action. eating a lot at night and nothing in the morning is pretty much ass backwards from what would be ideal for someone wanting to maintain lower bodyfat levels. a decent breakfast could consist of a variety of foods, but this is the one meal that you want to contain a fair amount of carbs, plus lots of protien and healthy fats from foods like peanut butter (not sausage) which should be in all of your meals

    Maybe in status quo land. That said I am a fat ass.
     
  20. CorneliusP

    CorneliusP Well-Known Member

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    I feel my deadlifts are stalled at 200 lbs due to grip strength. Should I work on grip strength or is it simpler to assume deadlifts are improving my grip well enough on their own?



    2 anecdotes that may be helpful but probably not:

    When I got to around 250# on my deadlift, I was stalling too. I was training only 1x5 at that time. The next few weeks I kept the weight at 250 and increased my volume to 3x5. After 3 weeks, I went to max and pulled 300 1x3, still overhand only. I continued from there doing 3x5 at 250 + 10 per week.

    Later I began stalling at 300 3x5 due to grip. After 4 reps, the bar was no longer firmly against my palm (it was resting in the crooks of my fingers). By the 5th rep, the bar was almost out of my grip entirely. Switched to mixed grip and voila, progress proceeded.

    So uh, switch up the rep scheme and/or go mixed grip.
     

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