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English Shoe Durability in Practice

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by archetypal_yuppie, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. clee1982

    clee1982 Well-Known Member

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    I have 2 pair of pre-prada churches and a pair of trickers. The newest is 8 years old, the oldest 12. All in all I have 5 pair of shoes (2 pair vass). Before that I used to wear italian shoes, and they didn't last anywhere near as long.


    You only have 5 pairs of shoe!!! are you sure you're a member of styleforum?
     
  2. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I'm scanning it now. Thing is, it seems like all factory made goodyear welted shoes are gemmed, so short of handsewn welts you're stuck with it.

    correct.

    i have gemmed shoes, too. mainly, cause i started some restore projects out of fun. no long term experience yet.
     
  3. chroMe

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    I have a few pairs of English made and although I have replaced the sole a few times; the leather upper has remained fab; love the character.

    The black ones are 3+yrs old.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. globetrotter

    globetrotter Well-Known Member

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    You only have 5 pairs of shoe!!! are you sure you're a member of styleforum?

    it gets better - haven't bought a pair of shoes in 5 years, or a suit in 8
     
  5. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    it gets better - haven't bought a pair of shoes in 5 years, or a suit in 8

    I wish I was so comfortable and content with my wardrobe. I have the restraint of a 2 year old kid ...
     
  6. academe

    academe Well-Known Member

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    Suspect it's much like new, $200K+ performance cars: most who buy them don't commute daily in them and only drive them occasionally on sunny, warm wkends...so have no real idea how they would hold up in daily use vs dry/wet weather/bumpy urban rds, etc Most of the famed UK/EU brands are some 2x cost of Alden shells; doubt UK/EU stuff lasts any longer in similar daily use (even with rotation for use every 2-3 days) in NYC weather and in extensive business travel (where rotation is often less possible)
    Hhhmmm. There are at least a few of us that don't fit in to this category. I almost only own C&Js, EGs, Chruchs & Alfred Sargents. I also have a pair of RM Williams and Marteganis. My EGs and C&Js see the most use. I wear them every day in a rotation of perhaps 8-12 pairs of shoes - rain, snow, or shine (sometimes all 3 in the UK!) - and find that they definitely have held up much better than any of my previous Italian made shoes (Ferragamos, etc.), the only exception being my pair of Marteganis. I don't have any Aldens or AEs to compare against, but I've found that the uppers on my English-made shoes to be much more water-proof and salt-resistant than any of my other shoes, RM Williams included.
     
  7. pinchi22

    pinchi22 Well-Known Member

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    I can only speak to 5 years, but my English shoes (C&J, Sargent) are holding up well through rain, sleet, snow and salt. Of course, I´ve had to replace soles, but the uppers are holding up very well despite being used an average of 1-3 times per week rain or shine. My made-with-UK-equipment Carmina´s are also holding up well.

    The integrity of the uppers on my AE´s has held up equally well, though the Chili colored ones got ruined (spotted) after a good rainstorm.

    On the other hand, the (glued?) Italian shoes I had before I discovered SF disintegrated after a winter or two.
     
  8. meister

    meister Well-Known Member

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    ZON_JR, you are a nasty troll. I don't see how you remotely consider this funny or ironic.

    Weren't you warned before not to post this image?


    He irritates over on The Fedora Lounge with inane posts of himself as well.
     
  9. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    So thus far it sounds like there is a discernable difference.
     
  10. mr monty

    mr monty Well-Known Member

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    I have 2 pair of pre-prada churches and a pair of trickers. The newest is 8 years old, the oldest 12. All in all I have 5 pair of shoes (2 pair vass). Before that I used to wear italian shoes, and they didn't last anywhere near as long.

    Italian shoes? You can't lump all Italian made shoes together as if they had only one standard for quality or construction? Italian shoes are not limited to Blake construction.[​IMG]
     
  11. oroy38

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    Well, for the 6 hours that my Edward Greens have seen use, they've performed admirably.
     
  12. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Unforch allen-edmonds and alden are butt ugly and poorly finished, in my opinion.

    NYC really is a disaster for shoes though. it sucks. rainy days are 'gamo days now


    I agree, I've noticed that my shoes with nails in the toe along with a combination heel wear the longest.

    My english cordovan loafers were very hard on the toe, with toe taps added they're very hard-wearing.

    So far my favorite brand for hearty wear is the Italian made Polo shoes.
     
  13. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    That "shoes with character" thread was great, btw
     
  14. brandall10

    brandall10 Well-Known Member

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    My AEs (Park Avenues and McAllisters) feel more durable than my sole pair of C&J Handgrades (Audleys).

    My Audleys just feel delicate by comparison - I feel like the price difference is largely due to more supple leather + finer construction details, but rather the AE is a more robust shoe. That said, I understand the tanning process for the handgrades yields longer lasting soles, so they should go further before needing their first resole.
     
  15. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    "feel" more durable may have no correlation with "are" more durable, but OK.
     
  16. Max MY

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    One of the main reasons people give for buying english shoes like C&J or EG is that they're supposed to last longer due to goodyear welt, good leather soles, etc.

    I once owned a pair of black Blundstone boots, which accompanied me across continents, into tropical jungles, up on snowy mountains, and to my casual ex-workplace. I wore them almost everyday for five years (yeah, yeah) and they still looked fairly new.

    One day, the soles finally fell apart. I was aghast when I found out they could not be resoled. Five years of amazing memories in those boots.

    They are the main reason I started buying English shoes. I don't see many Goodyear-welted shoes with full-grain uppers in the market; English shoemakers have tons of them.

    I don't ever want to be forced to throw away a pair of shoes I love, again.
     
  17. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    I don't ever want to be forced to throw away a pair of shoes I love, again.

    i can understand the misery you went through...
     
  18. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Have never heard of Blundstone...
     
  19. mr monty

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  20. brandall10

    brandall10 Well-Known Member

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    "feel" more durable may have no correlation with "are" more durable, but OK.

    Acknowledged, but as we're talking about luxury/premium shoes there's going to be some difficulty in discerning durability no matter how you slice it. If you want direct experience, the trend will be for people to treat their EGs/C&Js with more care than their lower end shoes.
     

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