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*EDIT- Vintage Exotics! Sea Turtle Wingtip Gunboats + Foot Joy Lizard Golf Spectators

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by isshinryu101, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    First time I've seen sea turtle gunboats. Impressive find, especially in your size.
     
  2. pebblegrain

    pebblegrain Well-Known Member

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    Look great. Never seen an unlongwing design like this before.
     
  3. butterflystyle

    butterflystyle Well-Known Member

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    Two words: BALLER STATUS

    I can guarantee you I wont be finding these in a 12.
     
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    WARNING!!! This Thread Is NOT Politically Correct. Please save MOST of the "that's just wrong" commentary, as it's already been beaten to death in other threads. If they weren't so freaking old, I would NOT be wearing them. ALSO, I posted this in the Shoe Porn thread, but I felt these were just too good of a find, and deserved their own thread. I JUST got these this afternoon. I had originally expected some nice vintage crocodile wingtips, but I was shocked to find... Vintage SEA TURTLE V-Cleat Wingtip Gunboats. 360 degree welt, double thick sole, and natural color. They are slightly greenish black and there is a "marble-like" textured look. Holy Crap! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] What surprises me most is that, for some reason, all of the sea turtle shoes I've seen before are: 1) In unwearable styles (funky 50's style buckle loafers, etc). If you've seen my SP posts, you know I'm into some OTT stuff as far as shoes, but this is too far for even my tastes. & 2) In bizarre sizes (9 AAAA, etc). Who the hell has a foot that's a 9 in length, and a 6 in width???? Maybe a geisha with "bound feet". Great for a museum piece, but no good for actual wearing. Gunboat style, size 9C. Fit my 8 1/2D's just fine.
    I'm like a 10 AAA. I wonder if I could jam into those 9AAAA's EDIT: Nevermind. I'm an idiot. I'm a triple E. What was I thinking. AAAA must have sawed off some toes.
     
  5. Yooxaddict73

    Yooxaddict73 Well-Known Member

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    WESOME!!! but heels on these were rebuilt by a monkey. I would definitely fix those heels.
     
  6. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Well-Known Member

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    Wow, those are straight pimp.
     
  7. P. Bateman

    P. Bateman Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely stunning.
     
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    The "book matching" of the hide (especially the toecaps) and lack of evidence of company label tells me these are MTM/special orders maybe bespoke. The flourish in using sea turtle on the underheel plate tells me no expense was spared to get the look of love.
     
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    Very cool! Are they brittle? I'd be affraid to wear them if they were, I'd hate to destroy such amazing beauties.
     
  11. Jangofett

    Jangofett Well-Known Member

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    Ebay find I am sure.

    Best $20 you've ever spent.


    Haha. I bet thats the case.

    They are so sweet too. No crease or wear in them and really lovely matching of leather.

    Bet more than 1 turtle was sacrificed to make this and the shoe maker had to carefully match the scale patterns from various turtles to get it right.
     
  12. Jangofett

    Jangofett Well-Known Member

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    Vintage SEA TURTLE V-Cleat Wingtip Gunboats.

    360 degree welt, double thick sole, and natural color. They are slightly greenish black and there is a "marble-like" textured look. Holy Crap!


    Really looks more olive green brown than green black.
     
  13. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    Really looks more olive green brown than green black.
    Makes them look even better, IMO.
     
  14. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Well-Known Member

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    Wow. Where did you find these? Thrifting?

    where did you find them? just some random thrift shop?

    Ebay find I am sure. Best $20 you've ever spent.


    Uh, not exactly...

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Well-Known Member

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    Also, these are dried out. Moisturize.
    Very cool! Are they brittle? I'd be affraid to wear them if they were, I'd hate to destroy such amazing beauties.
    Good question. Actually, I made some contacts in order to find out how to best moisturize them. I was told to use Almond Oil. Since it is very light oil & easily penetrates, it was suggested that I would get the best results using it. I used 3 coats, and they are very flexible now. There is no real evidence of dryness now. I also inquired about the brown lines between the scales. At first I thought they were evidence of extreme dryness, and was afraid the skin would tear. I was told that sea turtle skin is really very tough, as compared to vintage croc & lizard. The sea turtle lives in the ocean and dives to much deeper depths than the croc or gator. Therefore, their skin is much tougher and water-proof. Also, in gator & croc, you will see more bits of skin between the actual scales. That is because, 1) again, those animals' skin is evolved to handle much less waater pressure than the croc. & 2) the gator & croc need the extra skin between protective scales for flexibility, whereas the turtle needs very little flexibility on belly skin. I was told that these shoes are "natural" and un-dyed. Most exotics (including the other sea turtle shoes I have seen) have been dyed, so the skin between the scales is the same color as the scales themselves. Problem is that there is a complexity in color (a marbling effect) that the scales have naturally that is lost thru dying. The brown skin between the scales is the normal color of the un-dyed skin after 50+ years. Interesting stuff, I think.
     
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  16. garymyman

    garymyman Well-Known Member

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    Uh, not exactly...

    Your elusiveness on this question leads me to believe these are not vintage, but newly commissioned. Probably somewhere really shady, like North Korea - but I'm not sure they have capable cobblers.
     
  17. CaymanS

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    Your elusiveness on this question leads me to believe these are not vintage, but newly commissioned.

    +1

    Please PM name of rogue dictatorship where you bought these so my secretary can book travel - me want some [​IMG]
     
  18. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Well-Known Member

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    Your elusiveness on this question leads me to believe these are not vintage, but newly commissioned. Probably somewhere really shady, like North Korea - but I'm not sure they have capable cobblers.
    All I can say for certain is that they are pre-1979 (more like 1950's according to sources), which would put their construction BEFORE the sea turtle was placed on the endangered species list. I just figured I'd have some fun and share them with the SF community, as I can almost guarantee that it will be a LOOOOONG time until another pair shows up here.
     
  19. alliswell

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    Your elusiveness on this question leads me to believe these are not vintage, but newly commissioned. Probably somewhere really shady, like North Korea - but I'm not sure they have capable cobblers.

    There's wear on the inside of the counters. Nice try.
     
  20. garymyman

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