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Does money=happiness?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Connemara, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. Saucemaster

    Saucemaster Well-Known Member

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    May I amplify your point by saying that unearned money can also cause a type of foolish pride and a type of social disconnect.

    As abundantly evidenced in this thread, not least by the OP....
     
  2. emptym

    emptym Well-Known Member

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    I said goods are good, but it's better to be good than to possess goods.
    On reflection, I think my position is summarized best by saying,

    Goods are good, better still is to be good, but best of all is to both be good and to possess goods.
     
  3. qwerty

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    hmm i can relate to you as my parents grew up with nothing and had everything by the time they had me and i grew up in Hong Kong with everything i wanted whenever i wanted it. i probably had it even better than you. but with that said, the down side was i never got to see my parents at all for my whole childhood and i was basically raised by 2 nannies. Moved to Canada when I was 7 and parents retired. Although they "made up" for the time I couldn't spend with them for the first 7 years of my life, I still feel empty inside when I think about my childhood and I don't think money equates to happiness at all as I basically try to cover up my sorrow by buying everything I possibly can and that make me happy for what, 2 minutes?
    I know people that make practically nothing but live life positively and happily, and I am really envious of them for actually having a real meaningful childhood, which I think is so important.
    Money can buy all the materialistic things you want, sure. I guess it really depends how you define happiness. Mine would be being around friends and family. Witnessing first hand this summer that money certainly did not save the lives of two of my family members diagnosed with cancer, I can say money doesn't equate to happiness and power in my books.
     
  4. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Well-Known Member

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    These days, 50k a year really isn't a whole lot.


    However, in 1923, it was.
     
  5. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Well-Known Member

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    More proof that children ruin your life. Without children, I will have a Rubinacci wardrobe by 33.


    Having children: one of the greatest things of life.
     
  6. ghulkhan

    ghulkhan Well-Known Member

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    fair question - I have been poor, more than once, and I have been comfortable, more than once. hainvg money is much better than not. I just took my kids to disneyword and orlando, where I never was able to go as a kid. for somebody like me, every time I blow some money on something like that, it strikes me how my father could never have afforded it, even though he worked very very hard his whole life.

    frankly, this is a relavant question for me - I take great pride in the fact that I started working (really working, that is, for people who hired me because they saw an economic advantage to doing so, not because they were friends of my parents or thought I was cute) at 11, and have been working ever since. supporting myself since I was in my mid teens. when I see Jet Blast complaining about his job, or Connemara begging for money, it reminds me of the contrast with how I grew up. on the other hand, my children will ( unless some real tragedy hits us) grow up somewhat previeleded. I face a dilema - do I artifically create a situation where they have to work, to build charactor, or do I give them things I would have liked to have but couldn't, and maybe end up with spoiled weak kids?


    to answer your question - a certain amount of money makes you happy, as long as you make sure you try to be happy - you can't be happy without having the right attitude, no matter how much money you have.



    I know you are huge on character and believe that working to support yourself does so however I think that a lot of other variables contribute to building "character". I know plenty of people who work and have been working since their early teens and they dont have much "character" Creating a situation artificially to force your kids to have a job might not necessarily do more good than harm. Yes I know you've had a great life with many experiences that have built your character and that you have more of an authority on the subject than I do but when you say that having a job or joining the French Foreign Legion helps build character thats just not always true. You might do things that accord with someone of a good character but it does not mean that you will for sure just by doing it one day build such a character so your all your great actions in life start resulting from having such a good character. It just seems as if there are many more variables that contribute to such a personality. These are things you might be aware of and things that we might not be aware. And to say that we are sure as to what things might build character is a fallacy in itself.
     
  7. ghulkhan

    ghulkhan Well-Known Member

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    Having children: one of the greatest things of life.

    Having a Rubinacci wardrobe: one of the greatest things of life
     
  8. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Well-Known Member

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    More proof that children ruin your life. Without children, I will have a Rubinacci wardrobe by 33.
    Lucky for you your parents didn't think like this. EDIT: I just looked at the rubinaci site out of curiosity to see what they had. If I'm looking at the right one, the rubinacci napoli site, I don't see what you're so excited about. The stuff there looks OK, but nothing earth shattering.
     
  9. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Well-Known Member

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    Having a Rubinacci wardrobe: one of the greatest things of life



    Why not both and have money like The Donald?
     
  10. ghulkhan

    ghulkhan Well-Known Member

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    Why not both and have money like The Donald?

    Now thats what Im talking about...
     
  11. contactme_11

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    To a certain extent, duh... I grew up dirt poor, my parents barely made it each month. There were a more than a few times they had to borrow the money I made doing neighborhood yardwork to put gas in the tank. Now, if we weren't scraping by, yeah, I would imagine the stress level would diminish.

    Right now, I'm not making 50k a year, but I'm doing alright for starting out in the 'real world'. I'm pretty happy overall. More money is nice, but like Puffy and Ma$e said.. [​IMG]


    I've experienced very much the same life you described, and now I make a comfortable living. But I find you reach a point where so long as the bills are payed you don't always need much. I take great pleasure in taking a walk or playing a boardgame or something with my girlfriend. How much maney do you need for something like that? $0
     

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