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Do you wear a pocket square?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by suenarita, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    If you want a floral look, I'd go with something like this:

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  2. gringodaddy

    gringodaddy Well-Known Member

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    Camel hair, chambray and linen
     
  3. size 38R

    size 38R Well-Known Member

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    nice, reminds me of an Orchid.
     
  4. in stitches

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    i love that, but all green and red always strikes me a xmas colors.
     
  5. Naive Jr.

    Naive Jr. Well-Known Member

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    Dear Isolation,

    There must be something you like about it - perhaps its innovative character? But if you recognise a blossom character in its shape, do you find wearing a flower on your jacket lapel alienating? Why not a rose instead of a surrogate?

    The fact you seek opinions shows what other persons think about your creation is a factor for you, in which case, you might consider the shape to which you attribute your pocket square fold - that of a rose blossom, is not the only possibility, as you present another mental picture, that of ice cream cone. However romantic your own phantasy is, other persons may differ in their phantasy. Whereas, a rose is a rose.

    To the objection it looks affected, I looked again, and got the opposite impression: this roll appears quite practical, some sort of office handyman who has a gadget for his job in his pocket, like a pen or whatever. In other words, the roll loses any decorative effect for a indefinite function, and you use the pocket to store it, ready at hand. Prose instead of poetry.
     
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  6. Naive Jr.

    Naive Jr. Well-Known Member

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    Good idea, although the pocket square is again hardly visible, but you react to the villain of that James Bond movie who wears hos pocket square like Niagara Falls at his speech in South America, you don't want to be like him, right? The comics pocket square will signal to the gals that guy in gray flannel has two souls in his breast: you score! PS: Now I understand why you keep the pocket square so - because it's the comics pocket square! Is that UNDERstatement or lack of courage? But you know your neighborhood best.
     
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  7. Naive Jr.

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    Dear Gringodaddy,

    s m o o t h!

    Your clothes look cultivated, but your description sounds better, like a recipe for an exotic cocktail (I hope only fruit juice) or maybe lyrics to be put to music?

    We love our gringodaddy!
     
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  8. Dagon

    Dagon Active Member

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    38 Regular, if you don't mind me asking.

    Where did you get that awesome PS?
     
  9. size 38R

    size 38R Well-Known Member

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    Thankyou very much, i wear it as subtle as possible. as to not dominate the look. so the fold is just to show a little, and hint at awesome inside.
    i like to have fun with my clothes. but still look like i work for a living.

    Thankyou also. I made it myself. from material i bought at a sewing shop. it is a neat little hobby. and gives me a custom look.
    the way the material is printed, with ALL of the marvel characters, each square is unique, and each fold a different comic.
     
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  10. Naive Jr.

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    Dear 38R,

    I just saw a newspaper article in a Swiss newspaper (Blick, 3rd January 2014, page 7) the views ("Kurer kritisiert die US-Justiz") of Peter Kurer
    , UBS chief jurist 2001-2008, whose photograph (surely posed and stiled with PR consultation) shows him wearing dark suit jacket, open-collared formal shirt i.e. without tie, and contrasting red pocket square in full blossom (as high as his little finger's length). Because I consider his hypocritical and retarded Weltanscauung an example for the opposite of what Switzerland should contribute to the world (God's earth in your words), I have no wish to imitate this egoist's niveau in any way. But your position is not identical with Prince Charles', whose ideas on money are unknown to me. Your comment: "and still look like I work for a living" isn't very tolerant, if you cobsider its presuppositions and imolications, Not all work necessitates specialised clothing. You refer to the function of costume to evoke intentionally certain mental pictures and feelings in the soul of the observer.

    PS: What do you consider ideal pocket square measurements, and can you "hand roll"?
     
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  11. YRR92

    YRR92 Well-Known Member

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    I almost never buy things that I don't know how to wear, but I'd love to hear what other people thing about this one.

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  12. Naive Jr.

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    Dear Mr YRR92,

    Your complex sentence reminds me of a mathematical logic example because the two statements have no connection semantically to each other.

    1. I buy, I know

    2. What do you think of this ps?


    I think the colors and pattern of your pocket square are very beautiful.


    Unfortunately, you do not provide any description, specifications of the pocket square which would help someone like me to learn more about it.
     
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  13. size 38R

    size 38R Well-Known Member

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    haha!, "hand roll"... - you mean a fully hand made square? yes. fancy, magical B.S. - yes.

    i wear a square to break up a fit. to make it blend, and not be too uniform. i like to enjoy my clothes, but understand that for work purposes, i must be mindful that others will judge my appearance. while most "approved" members are teachers or proffessors, it is a difficult job. but offers freedom in personal styling. however, i own a company, and need to impress clients almost daily. and need to bear in mind that collegues depend on my skills, so i dress to describe my personality. (Hence the phrase "work for a living"). clientys are greeted by a man who has no fear to dress as he likes, whille respecting the chosen industry. -power dressing with personality.
     
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  14. Naive Jr.

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    Dear Aesthete 38R,

    If I understand correctly your description above of your work situation, you have responsibility for the leadership of an organisation employing others. The more consciously you represent the company in details of your own person and behaviour, the more fruitful the human atmosphere around you. Perhaps you call your dressing powerful because you feel better wearing clothes you like. If you feel better, than perhaps your employees and customers appreciate your positive attitude to view and try to solve their problems.

    PS: I want to wear pocket squares, but I don't have your budget, your aesthetic experience, or your craftsmanship. I read in some cases of pocket squares they are hand rolled. I observed a tiny turn at the edges.
     
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    size 38R Well-Known Member

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    Dear Craftsman 38R,

    Thanks very much for your friendly response and well meant instructions for do it yourself pocket square manufacture. Unfortunately, I am already overwhelmed by mental work of clarifying what my elitist professors and their instrumentalised students of a feather don't want to clarify, so in this lifetime I won't be able to develop other enforcement of theory in practice, as you do versatilely.

    Self representation is also an expression found in psychology and philosophy.

    Tomorrow is Epiphany, the three wise men were astrologers!

    Clarity and energy to you!
     
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  17. PinkestFlamingo

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    I subscribe to Hardy Amies' view that a handkerchief should be arranged "in such a way that it gives the appearance of being there for use and not decoration". Pocket squares are a trend on the downward slope at the moment and for that reason look too affected, in my view. (I acknowledge that the pocket square is, however, very practical for use as well as decoration; but it is also a fashion victim right now.)

    That being said, even though I bung mine in place in a matter of seconds I have on a couple of occasions had people that it "must have taken me ages". Hmmm.
     
  18. Naive Jr.

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    NDear Pinkest Flamingo,
    Cédric Villani wears a broach which resembles a spider.

    Hasn't the Hardies Amies ERROR! Harvey Nichols has been assimilated by duchamp?

    Your criticism is not evident. Pocket square in itself must be differentiated from the ugly pocket square and from ugly use of the pocket square.

    Where is pocket square on a downward slope and why? in Buckingham Palace I see no indication to support you view? On Savile Row? Why does Huntsman sell pocket squares? On Jermyn Street? Why do New & Lingwood sell pocket squares? Budd still uses the expression Blow or show. Is Hardy Amies' view incoherent - You must mean here on Style Forum pocket squares are dusky, but you subscribe to diplomatic language.


    The border between decoration and use is unclear and you offer no examples.
    Of course, decoration can be viewed as affectation.
    ERROR! DISTINCTION BETWEEN DECORATION AND ORNAMENTATION UNCLEAR!
    You contradict Amies yourself in a later sentence - I'm afraid your text is too cryptic for me to decipher unless you state your own position more clearly, and I don't think it quite fair to use Amies without supplying the context. For example, does Hardy Amies assume bespoke?

    Who wants to be on a downward slope as fashion victim? Mercy!
     
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  19. Ropavejero

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    I like all kinds of pocket squares. First I collected solid colored one so as to have every color and shade in the rainbow, and then began branching out with patterned ones. In fact have an orange and gold one spotted with navy blue, quite similar to the one displayed by YRR92.
     
  20. Naive Jr.

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    I'm afraid you are on a downward slope and fashion victim. I don't know what it means, but it sounds like trouble. Your method of collection sounds as if you are a Pantone purist of greatest patience and of enormous wealth. I thought I could spice up my jacket vest pocket with color and birds, since my waistcoats are floral and I don't wear ties.
     
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