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Do you feel you are intelligent?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by drake, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. drake

    drake Well-Known Member

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    Do you feel you are intelligent? Do you think your success in life correlates to your intelligence? Why or why not?
     
  2. Fade to Black

    Fade to Black Well-Known Member

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    1st question: yes

    2nd question: no, i'm still too young and have a lot to learn. making good progress though
     
  3. Eason

    Eason Well-Known Member

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    I'm not smart, but I'm clever. I think it's stopped me from being successful at my current job. I have zero desire or drive to succeed for my company when I feel I'm being treated unfairly.
     
  4. Conrad

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    According to many people I know and however many standardized intelligence tests I take, I'm damn smart. Clever, excellent reasoning skills, and a retention rate second to few.

    However, look at the grades I'm pulling down (i'm passing, but they aren't pretty). Deal is, i can't perform for someone I don't respect. If i respect my boss or teacher I'll make him the happiest man on earth with my performance capability. If I think he's just having me do a bunch of busy work and can't tell me what it has to do with anything, then I'll treat it like busy work that doesn't have to do with anything.

    So my level of achievement has nothing directly to do with my intelligence.
     
  5. Coho

    Coho Well-Known Member

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    I'll be making 800K soon and my intelligence is expanding like the universe, slowly but constant. However, in its static state, it's well below average. [​IMG]
     
  6. Coho

    Coho Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Enough si'd.

    and a retention rate second to few
     
  7. Fade to Black

    Fade to Black Well-Known Member

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    If I have one fatal flaw, it's I'm too smart for my own good, for someone of my position/status. I've pretty much ruled out working in large corporations.
     
  8. X-It

    X-It Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I am smart but I am clever enough to grab good opportunity.
    I think my success in life are not correlates only to my intelligence but to some luck as well.
     
  9. globetrotter

    globetrotter Well-Known Member

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    ok, I'll bite.

    I test pretty well, and I have been in several frameworks that tested me, so I know exactly where I fall on the bell curve.

    there are several issues about intellegence and success

    1. there is a window of "success" - people who are extremly intellegent usually aren't that successful, you have a lot of very successful people in their 130's and low 140's, above that it can be difficult to adapt to society. many, or most, of the people you think of as successful are probrably in their 120's.

    2. there are many diffirent types of intellegence - I am lucky in that my intellegence is in an area that has been very helpful to me: it seems that I have an aptitude for understanding how people interact, for identifying patterns in social interactions and organizations. I have been able to leverage that in a sales managment career. on the other hand, my skill at putting together puzzles is probrably equal to an average 10 year old, because I have very weak skills in that area.

    3. other traits can be as important, if not more so. if I were to say what contirbuted to my success, I would say equal parts intellegence and tenacity, probrably.
     
  10. Dedalus

    Dedalus Well-Known Member

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    Bad:
    -Poor memory and attention span from drug years
    -Poor verbal communication skills
    -Ill-informed in politics, money, current events, general history, etc.

    Good:
    -Fairly skilled at critical thinking (conceptualization/abstraction, logic, language, objectivity, awareness of epistemological limitations, etc.), even though I have few topics with which I can use those skills
    -Good written communication skills

    I voted above average. I'm assuming that the average Joe is also ill-informed, burnt out, and lacks critical thinking abilities. My listed pros and cons have helped and hurt my career for obvious reasons.
     
  11. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Well-Known Member

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    I love that 44% of the respondents think they're in the top 5%. Hmmmm. Something about that doesn't jive in my head.

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  12. PinkPantser

    PinkPantser Well-Known Member

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    I love that 44% of the respondents think they're in the top 5%. Hmmmm. Something about that doesn't jive in my head.

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    It makes sense to me, we are a self selecting narcissistic group after all (I voted top 5% as well).
     
  13. Quirk

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    I love that 44% of the respondents think they're in the top 5%. Hmmmm. Something about that doesn't jive in my head. b
    Only intelligent people respond? It's like doing a poll of SAT scores. You'd think the National Merit Foundation must be bankrupt.
     
  14. Dedalus

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    I love that 44% of the respondents think they're in the top 5%. Hmmmm. Something about that doesn't jive in my head.

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    Two thirds of the world is underdeveloped or developing. I'm approximating that one third of the developed world is college educated, tentatively inferring from US numbers and recognizing that college education is not necessarily indicative of intelligence. So if you have a college degree, you are already in the ~10th percentile of smartitude.
     
  15. rdawson808

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    I was going with "top 5% of SF," not the probably intended, top 5% of your country or the world.

    I'm def. top 5 in the world. Probably in the country. Fuck that. Top 1%! [​IMG]

    b
     
  16. gdl203

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    Academically speaking, most likely 95th percentile, but intelligence is a lot more than academic achievements. I picked above average because I feel that my life experience has been fairly linear so far.
     
  17. yachtie

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    My poll choice is based purely on standardized test scores. I make no other claims.
     
  18. whodini

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    How exactly are we defining "intelligence?" Getting good grades? Solving ridiculous math problems? Being good at trivia? My grades were always pretty average in high school, and to a certain extent in college, but tested well with sat's, ap's, and mcat; I guess grades are indicative more of 'hard work' than anything else. I suppose my intelligence plays a big role in my career (or at least it's supposed to), but I really find a good chunk of medicine is just having a really, really good memory or studying long enough that certain processes become ingrained in you. Even on the diagnostic side, it's all about taking in information and remembering which characteristics can belong to which diseases, which processes can be affected and how they manifest, etc. It's really like memorizing the world's largest flowchart. But do I feel intelligent? I was never really all that great with math but if you asked me the incubation period for rubeola I could tell you based on remembering which slide number on which page of a printed out copy of an exanthematic disease class I had eight months ago. Maybe with intelligence it's not so much how you came to know the answer but that you got the answer right.
     
  19. totally epic

    totally epic Well-Known Member

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    I can solve ridiculous math problems.
     
  20. Droog

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    If I recall my undergraduate/graduate psych studies correctly, an IQ of 125 equates to roughly the beginning of the top 5 percentile (1.65 standard deviations above the mean for a one-direction percentage, assuming 15 points per standard deviation, which however varies from test to test).
     

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