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Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Whacky, Jan 15, 2011.

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  1. ojaw

    ojaw Well-Known Member

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    Hm, I don't think that would change what I said.
    If the 1000s are a look that works for you, then try and emulate that with the White's.
    Do you shine your boots regularly, or just periodically apply protection?
    That might affect which leather you choose, since some take a shine better than others.
    An oil tan type of leather may prove more durable for a wearer who misses the occasional clean-up or buff, since the protection is manufactured in.
     
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  2. gfloridafan93

    gfloridafan93 Well-Known Member

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    Well I have only had them for a few months. I oiled and lp them when I got them. Now I brush them occasionally if I scuff them up. Do you think it would be dumb though if I bought another brown leather that looks like my current 1000s? Thanks for the help!
     
  3. ojaw

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    If you're shooting for higher quality (and can appreciate the difference) it's not dumb at all to go with a better version of what you already have.
    And what Andy B. said; I'm turning that over in my head as I wear my new Black Vibergs while waiting on my Brown Dress White's.
    Black formalizes an outfit to a degree - with obvious NB walking shoe exceptions...
     
  4. ojaw

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    Oh, and like my friends tell me, everything I say comes out of my ass.
     
  5. Quack Attack

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    Good evening guys,

    If anyone has been pondering a shell cordovan White's SD, jump on board! Whites is going to discontinue this leather. There is still enough leather to make roughly 8-10 pair but once it's used up, they aren't bringing anymore in.

    Reason? They unfortunately had too much leather rip in the lasting process. Roughly 20% of the orders had to be restarted and due to the cost of the leather they can't afford to move forward with it.

    Please email me with questions.

    Thanks,

    Kyle @ Baker's
     
  6. linafelt

    linafelt Well-Known Member

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    I think black work boots are totally cool, and will look great with just about anything -- brown or tan chinos, jeans, blue pants, etc. I like them with contrasting silver eyelets, and either a brown or natural midsole.

    Your main options for a "basic" leather from Whites will probably be: brown or black dress; brown or black or burgundy CXL; brown or black horsehide. CXL has really caught on recently, but if you look back in the earlier days of this board, brown dress seems to have been the clear favorite, often thought of as White's "standard" leather. There are lots of pics of it well worn, and it looks really great. It's a much darker brown than many other brown, and would be different enough from your 1000 mile boots I think, especially if you added a cap toe, pull loop, or the like. And the sole and feel will be much more substantial than the 1000 mile. There seem to be less pics of black dress, bu presumably it would wear well too.

    The black and brown oil tans will be less glossy and distinctive looking, but thicker and more durable by all accounts (including white's).

    I've made my case for HH above, which I love.

    By the way, White's will send you sample swatches of the leathers if you email them and ask...
     
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  7. BolognaFingers

    BolognaFingers Well-Known Member

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    How do you guys get fitted for these boots? Just go off of measurements?
     
  8. BolognaFingers

    BolognaFingers Well-Known Member

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    These are gorgeous! what leather is that?
     
  9. gfloridafan93

    gfloridafan93 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys for all the responses regarding the leather options. I have my eye on a few different styles, so I will post pictures later and ask for your opinions. Another quick question. I have only ever owned 6'' boots. The semi dress is 5''. Is there really a big difference between the two? If so, would a 6'' bounty hunter be equivalent to a 6'' semi dress since they don't make it in a 6''?
     
  10. linafelt

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    White's will ask you to send in tracings and measurements, and that seems to work well for some folks. But I don't entirely trust it. Based on mine White's suggested I order 9.5D; but I had a chance to try on a pair of SDs in that size (from the store Imogene and Willie's) and they were clearly too tight. Kyle from Baker's then sent me a pair of SJ's in 9.5E to try on, and those were also tight in the toebox. After talking with Kyle, I ended up ordering my SD's in 9.5EE, which I am hoping and praying will fit just right. Bottom line: no substitute for trying on...

    BTW, I am going to attach here a picture of my old old horsehide Vibergs. I know, it's a White's board, but thought I'd give a sense of how black HH can look, since there are few pics of White's black HH in the wild. (I confess that I want to weep openly at having had to let these boots go!)

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  11. linafelt

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    For whatever reasons, the Bounty Hunter (which is a 6" SJ built on the SD last), feels heavier and more workboot-like than the SD, even though only one inch taller. Also, it will have a bellows tongue, unlike the SD.
     
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    The BH also has an additional piece of leather as the heel counter. I would say the BH should feel a little heavier than a SD because it should actually BE heavier. :D

    Regarding the color choice and the black Vibergs, I think the lower block heel of the Vibergs looks like an old style of boot that many factory workers would have worn 70 years ago. Once you get into the White's BH or SJ, with the thicker and taller heels, they start looking more like logging boots or biker boots and I think in black it may be a bit much for "the office". Brown seems to tone that affect down somewhat and they look less like workboots. It is kind of the same thing with leather jackets, you can completely change the effect by using either a black leather or a brown. A brown cafe racer just looks like a nice brown leather jacket. Black in the same style definitely looks like a motorcycle jacket.

    And as ojaw says, this is all just talking out my ass. :)
     
  13. johng70

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    When I ordered my SD boots last year I went through this research. After talking to both White's and Bakers you pretty much have softness going from:
    HH (softest) to CXL to Dress Brown (more ridgid)

    The durability goes in the other direction. This is not to say HH is not durable, it's just a relative thing between the 3.

    I landed on CXL as the middle ground - not the suppleness or depth of color HH provides but more than dress brown and soft. I've been very happy with my decision (Brown CXL) to date. Exactly what I was looking for.
    Now, if you prefer to POLISH your boots, CXL isn't the best choice. With the oil infused leather it doesn't take polish as well. But, I'm not wearing a dress shoe here. I don't want a high shine.

    I think Brown CXL is a great and versatile look that works with a lot of shades of jeans. I have medallion cap toe to add a bit to the look. But, I would still never wear them with khakis/chinos. The shape/form is a dressed up work boot, not a dress boot.

    One other thing no one has mentioned - the one problem I have found with my White's is; the right upper at the heel is getting badly scuffed from driving. With the sloped heel, the upper hits my car floor rather than the back of the sole/heel. Would never have thought about it. I'm sure a lot depends on the ergonomics of my car and the angle of my leg.

    Anyway, hope some of this is helpful.
     
  14. gfloridafan93

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    Thank you as well. Right now, I am in between the burgandy cxl, natural cxl, and the British tan leather. Opinions on any of these? Honestly I seem to change my mind daily after seeing different pictures lol.
     
  15. johng70

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    Yep. It is a challenge - the more you see the more you think, that looks cool too. Again, my advice is to stick to what's most versatile first. I think burgandy is the least versatile for casual wear. British Tan and Natural CXL appear to be very similar in color - so again, it comes down to TYPE of leather you want. The british tan leather is going to be a bit thicker the CXL more supple The tan will take a polish better but the CXL has that default deeper color due to the oils.

    Now, both will get a bit darker with age. What you have to ask yoruself is how YOU look with british tan shoes/belt. Don't focus on the boots themselves. You have to like how YOU look in those colors. That's more high contrast with dark jeans than the darker browns. Go to a shoe shoe or department store and grab a british tan style shoe/belt and see how you like the look on YOU. Obviously the style will be differnet but it will give you an idea of how you like the way the color works. Again, the more contrasting the color of the belt/shoe vs color of your jeans the more peoples' eyes will be drawn to those aspects of your wardrobe. If that's what you want then I think British tan/natural CXL can look great - especially after they darken/patina a bit. But, my personal feeling is burgundy is not a great first choice for a boot. Brown or dark tan is a much better first choice.
     
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    Personally, I think burgundy works great for a casual shoe/boot. It matches with virtually anything (aside from burgundy pants), and looks good in any light.
     
  17. andy b.

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    Same here. I wouldn't say badly, but it definitely shows up. Most of my footwear does this to some extent so there's not much I can do about it.
     
  18. CJ23

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    Can anyone tell me what colors of Chromexcel are available for custom boots? I know the use black and navy but are there different colors of brown ? Also do they use No 8 ? Thanks
     
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  19. hendjosh

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    The available colors I know of are Black, Brown, Natural, Navy, and Burgundy #8 available in chromexcel.

    Here are some links to my favorite burgundy examples,
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/219173/custom-whites-boots-thoughts/465#post_5398151
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/219173/custom-whites-boots-thoughts/1875#post_6456723

    Some natural chromexcel examples (there are many more examples on the forum),
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/219173/custom-whites-boots-thoughts/2235#post_6590378
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/219173/custom-whites-boots-thoughts/3030#post_6893142

    There are examples of worn natural chromexcel on the site as well. I wish there were more worn pictures of the burgundy on the forum.
     
  20. linafelt

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    ^^ couple of things about leathers:

    My natural CXL boots basically turned brown after the first treatment of CXL, and have darkened ever since. Now, it's a cool brown, but just keep in mind that that won't keep that natural look for long.

    In my experience CXL is quite a bit softer than HH, and I think (though some will argue) less durable.
     

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