Curt Schilling: HOFer?

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser

How about Glavine and Smoltz?

yeah, I edited as you were posting this.

 

[thekunk07]

no on smoltz IMO.

one spectacular season, 2 as a closer. not enough.

i say:

clemens
maddux
glavine
pedro
hoffman
mussina
mariano
schilling

 

[Baron]

No on Hoffman but I forgot Mariano - he's had an amazing career, even with the heavy discount I tend to give relievers. I suppose Eckersley is up there too.

Originally Posted by thekunk07

no on smoltz IMO.

one spectacular season, 2 as a closer. not enough.

i say:

clemens
maddux
glavine
pedro
hoffman
mussina
mariano
schilling

 

[MetroStyles]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

no on smoltz IMO.

one spectacular season, 2 as a closer. not enough.

i say:

clemens
maddux
glavine
pedro
hoffman
mussina
mariano
schilling

I say definite yes on Smoltz. His ERA+ has been sick. Highest ERA he has had since 1995 has been 3.49.

 

[thekunk07]

^when he pitches and is not busy nursing injuries.

 

[chorse123]

David Wells? 10 15-win seasons.

Clemens, as good as he was, I find hard to give credit for anything post Boston. He's HOF for those years, but...

 

[Ambulance Chaser]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

no on smoltz IMO.

one spectacular season, 2 as a closer. not enough.

i say:

clemens
maddux
glavine
pedro
hoffman
mussina
mariano
schilling
Smoltz's career stats are very similar to Schilling's, with the main difference being that Smoltz has 154 saves in addition to his 210 wins.

 

[Brian278]

He's a dick, but he's in. Multiple rings, dominant post-season numbers, six-time all-star, got it done in both leagues...you have to give him a pass on the wins.

I can't believe anyone is questioning Smoltz's spot in the top 10. He's there over Hoffman in a heartbeat, and I think he's better than Schilling. He's a marvel, and another dominant post-season pitcher.

 

[thekunk07]

^^just looked again at his stats and you make a fair point. i guess i just always saw his as a distant third in the triumvirate of atlanta. not fair perhaps...

 

[Baron]

Smoltz has been consistently great and has had an amazing career despite the injuries. I'm actually reversing now and putting him above Schilling. Plus he's a long time staple of my fantasy team and I've never owned Schilling, so I'm biased.

 

[thekunk07]

^i forgot the big unit. automatic.

 

[Vintage Gent]

I just don't see it. He's got only three seasons that are truly dominating, then three or four good-to-very-good seasons. The remainder are mediocre at best. Not the kind of sustained excellence you need for a HOF career.

 

[MetroStyles]

Originally Posted by Vintage Gent

I just don't see it. He's got only three seasons that are truly dominating, then three or four good-to-very-good seasons. The remainder are mediocre at best. Not the kind of sustained excellence you need for a HOF career.

Who?

 

[Vintage Gent]

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

Who?

Schilling.

 

[Slopho]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

no on smoltz IMO.

one spectacular season, 2 as a closer. not enough.

i say:

clemens
maddux
glavine
pedro
hoffman
mussina
mariano
schilling

Crazy talk!!

Smotz has 150 wins & 150 saves

The only other guy with that is the Eck.