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Current Quality of Church's Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Roger, Jan 24, 2007.

  1. Moss

    Moss Well-Known Member

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    Hit or miss (mostly miss). You may find some nice ones, but there are much better options for English shoes in that price range (Crockett and Jones, Alfred Sargent).
     
  2. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Well-Known Member

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    isnt Trickers a one trick pony compared with the other brands referred to? It seems it is all about an heavily broggued light tan shoe/boot with clownish shaped lasts isn' it?
    trickers not good,
    5 spi on double soles at most. [​IMG]
    Leather average.
    Using cheaper material now.

    Yes Church have many range.
    Old goodyear is good.
    Me have new goodyear church with higher spi sole stitch than old pre prada church.
    Old Church better finish.
    Quality still very good for factory made.
     
  3. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    Herring has a new double monk from Churchs for 475 GBP. Is it worth 170 GBP more than Lowndes or 90 GBP more than teh AS Ramsey [​IMG]
     
  4. EBugatti

    EBugatti Well-Known Member

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    Herring has a new double monk from Churchs for 475 GBP. Is it worth 170 GBP more than Lowndes or 90 GBP more than teh AS Ramsey

    [​IMG]


    The Chatham shown above, is a great shoe. BUT, not worth it at 475 GBP IMO. Note that Church also have the Liverpool double monk which is very, very similar to the Chatham at 380 GBP. However, the Liverpool is only available in the "Binder" corrected grain while the Chatham is in calf leather. So you are paying nearly 100 pounds for a different leather in essence.
     
  5. economiayocio

    economiayocio Well-Known Member

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    ^ That Goodrich is a good looking shoe. [​IMG]

    It fits very well also. I am very happy with it. I also have a polished binder oxford and it is horrible.
     
  6. radicaldog

    radicaldog Well-Known Member

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    Herring has a new double monk from Churchs for 475 GBP. Is it worth 170 GBP more than Lowndes or 90 GBP more than teh AS Ramsey

    [​IMG]


    In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.
     
  7. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Well-Known Member

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    trickers not good,
    5 spi on double soles at most. [​IMG]
    Leather average.
    Using cheaper material now.


    Yes Church have many range.
    Old goodyear is good.
    Me have new goodyear church with higher spi sole stitch than old pre prada church.
    Old Church better finish.
    Quality still very good for factory made.


    I'm not sure what you base that on - sounds like bollocks. The Tricker's I have seen on sale look pretty good. The leather quality is certainly on a par with C&J, and the construction is excellent.
     
  8. kev777

    kev777 Well-Known Member

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  9. Leather man

    Leather man Well-Known Member

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    In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.

    The leather on these is amazing, the soles are not upto much. The toe box is soft. Is it worth more than Lowndes, yes. Is it worth £170 more? No.

    The double strap monks in the now defunct Royals range of Church's were superb - I have three pairs.
     
  10. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Well-Known Member

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  11. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what you base that on - sounds like bollocks. The Tricker's I have seen on sale look pretty good. The leather quality is certainly on a par with C&J, and the construction is excellent.
    Me have many Trickers.
    A drastic change has occured in last 18 months.
    Look,
    should be obvious.
    Me correct.

     
  12. jnm23q

    jnm23q Well-Known Member

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    In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.

    Agreed. It's 75 quid more than C & J handgrade, which will have channelled soles
     
  13. Champagnelifestylenomoney

    Champagnelifestylenomoney Well-Known Member

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    Le Bon MarchÃ[​IMG] has a new "City Line" by Church's, cheaper than the standard range. They look really cheap, like (for example) Prada shoes.

    I suppose they're diversifying: A less pricey starter line, while the Shanghai range featured above clearly caters for the blind.



    Also inspected the City Line in Venice's Church's store (incongruous alongside some of the real thing - beautiful lizard & crocodile models) - Prada already do perfectly usable throw away fashion shoes which last a season ( as do Boss, D&G etc.) & are priced similarlly to to those branded as Church City Line.

    Will guys going to their first job buy these through lack of experience? If so will they be put off the brand? Alternatively is this better than them buying some uber-fashionable D&Gs which will be unwearable within a year/data quicker than the latest tatoos?

    As a big fan of the company I'd urge them to go higher end not lower.
     
  14. babyfish1

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    Dear all,
    I bought another pair of church shoes... unfortunately I had many many problems due to their quality and CHURCH is not supporting in any way.
    I brought my sohoes back ti the Churck store and they gave me those back after 2 months with the same problem...
    SInce that moment I m still trying to get support from CHurch UK but without any success...
    Did anyone of you have any similar experience? what have you done?
    Please help me!!!
    Hy
     
  15. Austinii

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    I'm suprised that you have had problems with Church's after sales, I send mine back for repair and they come back fantastic every time, even if I have mistreated them.
    I find them helpful and communicative, and they certainly seem to be trying to improve their image since the perceived drop in quality when Prada came in.
    Have you spoken with them on the 'phone?

    Oops.... I just saw the date on your post, hope you got everything sorted by now!!
     
  16. Snedley

    Snedley Well-Known Member

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    When I visited their New York store on Madison Ave the place was full of corrected grain leather shoes selling for exorbitant prices. I ran out horrified.

    You pay the price of an EG and get the quality of Loakes.

    I would be reluctant to pay any more than about $120 for a pair of Church's.

    You have no idea what corrected grain means.
     
  17. Cant kill da Rooster

    Cant kill da Rooster Well-Known Member

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  18. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Well-Known Member

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    I went into Church's in London last week. Surprised to find that many of their shoes were half leather lined with linen linings. Seriously shit at that price point. A few nasty polished binder ones and some seriously weird brogues with sparkly gems all over them. They are getting less British by the year (I know they are owned by Prada). C&J, in contrast, are in the button with their look - old fashioned (in a good way) and very plush shop interior in their new shop on Jermyn Street. All the staff dressed in suits. You can't help to be impressed by the attention to detail. Other makers must be bricking themselves.
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2012
  19. kasakka

    kasakka Well-Known Member

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    I've got these Church's Brisbanes and for comparison also C&J Drummonds. The C&J's have smoother and more flexible leather whereas the Church's are built like a tank with stiffer and maybe a tad thicker leather. At least mine are leather lined. IMO there isn't any real quality difference, just depends on the styling you prefer. C&J are a bit more aggressive whereas Church's are more traditional.

    [​IMG]
     

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