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Corneliani V. Canali

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by slaavwmr, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Kai

    Kai Well-Known Member

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    I've got quite a few Canali Suits, made from a pretty wide variety of fabrics.

    The ones I've owned since the early 1990's I purchased in NYC at a shop called British American House (which, curiously, seems to sell exclusively Italian clothing.) I also purchased my two Corneliani suits from them.

    From them, I have:
    light wool crepe in taupe
    light olive in silk/wool blend
    black on black patterned wool
    navy wool
    black tuxedo
    brown with grey pinstripes

    More recently, I've purchased a Canali from Bluefly. It's in brown wool.

    I also bought one off of ebay (threw away the jacket, and just wear the pants.) It's a dark olive wool.
     
  2. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Well-Known Member

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    All I can say is that Canali is very well machine tailored suit. Even after a long wear, the paddings and seams hold their original shape.
     
  3. redtree00

    redtree00 Well-Known Member

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    The majority of my suits are Corneliani.
    There are several Corneliani models offering different fits, there are also differences in finish and details depending on where I have purchased Corneliani.
    The Vogue models have more room in the shoulder and chest and have a different trouser silhouette than the Spencer model, these are both from the regular line models, there are a few more models if you include the semi fused lower end CC Collection line.
    The detailing also varies widely, I have a Corneliani suit from BG with pick stitching galore, all over the jacket and on the trousers the pockets and side seams are pick stitched. The trousers are more finely detailed and the fabric is better.
    A Corneliani I purchased from Saks has no pick stitching, less internal pockets and the trousers are not finished as nice as the BG suit.
    Looking at my closet, Corneliani suits purchased from STP are a notch above the Saks models and  my suits from NM are better with the BG suits being the best. They are obviously spec'd differently for each store.

    I also have a few Canali suits and jackets purchased from Saks, nicely made and good fit overall but I find the shoulder is not as nice as the Corneliani. Canali is better made than the Saks purchased Corneliani but not as good as the BG ones. I don't know if Canali from another store is different as I don't own any.

    In the past I have always seen them priced within a few $'s of each other, I am at a loss as to the huge disparity mentioned earlier in this thread.

    They are both very comparable to each other, if you like a softer shoulder like I do, go with Corneliani.

    I no longer buy Corneliani at Saks unless very heavily discounted, if shopping at Saks I highly recommend the very reasonably priced and frequently discounted Hield suits and jackets.
     
  4. johnapril

    johnapril Well-Known Member

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    Tell more about Hield. Does anymore know anything specific about the quality and fabric in this line? I have seen them at the Saks in town but wasn't sure whether to consider them.
     
  5. redtree00

    redtree00 Well-Known Member

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    Hield is made by Cheshire/Chester Barrie in England.

    My Suits/Jackets are all Super 120 fabrics in interesting textures and patterns.
     
  6. slaavwmr

    slaavwmr Well-Known Member

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    This is very interesting. All stores that sell Corneliani at retail sell the basic suits at the same price. In other words, Navy, Nay Pinstripe, Charcoal, Charcoal Pinstripe and Black all go for $1095 at Saks and Niemans.

    Are those different suits as well?
     
  7. caledoniasoul2

    caledoniasoul2 Well-Known Member

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    The above poster is correct. Corn makes a vouge and spencer model-each with a different shape. Im tall and slim and everytime i try on a canali i get that gangster feeling in the shoulders. Quality aside, I much prefer the corneliani in styling.

    If your in nyc -rothman's carries both and you can try them head to head. Ask for rich...he knows his stuff
     
  8. Gatsby

    Gatsby Well-Known Member

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    There was a similar topic (Corneliani vs. Canali) on the AAAC forum, with very similar results: Corneliani: slimmer and sleek, Canali: better, but bigger. That said, I've only had experience with the latter.

    I purchased a Canali from eBay listed as an approximate 39L. Typically this is the RTW size that fits me best as I am slim with smaller shoulders and long arms. Unfortunately as Italian and US sizes are based on chest size and shoulders respectively (correct?), the shoulders fit fine (though a little stiff), but the chest/waist is huge. Amazingly the pants fit relatively well (I'm wearing them now), and could probably use just minor alterations. I have to admit, the fabric used is smoother and softer than in any of my other suits; and the construction seems to be good for a machine made suit.

    Currently I am considering whether or not to go through the hassle of reselling the suit -- which I don't like doing -- or looking for a tailor willing to do some serious work. I'm not sure if it's even possible, but I'd like to get the chest and waist taken in probably 3-4 inches. Either way, I only spent about $200 for the suit, so I really wouldn't mind spending around the same amount on alterations if it'll make it fit well. Any opinions??
     
  9. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... Recutting chest is possible depends on how much room that there are from breast pocket to armhole seam.

    The issue with chest alteration is tha the suit's shoulder line will change and shoulder point to point measure will decrease as well. If you are going to alter chest, I suggest you do this first, then do waist or rear seam altered if needed. If you all the alterations at once, the jacket may end up fit too tight.
     

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