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Compare Corneliani and Isaia

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by odoreater, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    I've really liked the way that Cornelianis from STP fit me and I was thinking about pulling the trigger on an Isaia from STP. I was wondering if anyone had any input on how the two fit compared to one another so that I can figure out what size to order. Usually I order euro size 52L in Corneliani and was thinking about going with a 52L in Isaia too, but I seem to remember some people suggesting that the Isaia's run smaller so a 54L might be a better fit. Any thoughts?
     
  2. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Well-Known Member

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    Corneliani that I got from STP fits me too baggy on the waist. Isaia suits are cut much better and superior garnmet.
     
  3. Soph

    Soph Well-Known Member

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    Isaia especially the high end Napoli is a much better overall suit.
     
  4. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    Isaia especially the high end Napoli is a much better overall suit.

    Yes of course. But does an Isaia 52L fit more like a US 42L or a US 40L?
     
  5. Earthmover

    Earthmover Well-Known Member

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    Yes of course. But does an Isaia 52L fit more like a US 42L or a US 40L?

    My guess is a 40L. I usually wear a 44L and Isaia's 56L (the model is called "Todd"?) is a very slim fit on me.
     
  6. pkincy

    pkincy Well-Known Member

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    Yes of course. But does an Isaia 52L fit more like a US 42L or a US 40L?

    Neiman's labels their Isaia's in e52L as 41Ls and I believe that is accurate.

    My Corneliani's fit like tents. So I will wear a 54L or R in Isaia but a 52R in Corneliani.

    Perry
     
  7. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    Neiman's labels their Isaia's in e52L as 41Ls and I believe that is accurate.

    My Corneliani's fit like tents. So I will wear a 54L or R in Isaia but a 52R in Corneliani.

    Perry


    Insteresting. I wear a 52L in Corneliani and a 42L in brands like Hickey Freeman. I'm thinking maybe I should go with a 54L in Isaia. Good thing STP has a really good return policy.
     
  8. johnapril

    johnapril Well-Known Member

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    Insteresting. I wear a 52L in Corneliani and a 42L in brands like Hickey Freeman. I'm thinking maybe I should go with a 54L in Isaia. Good thing STP has a really good return policy.

    The 54L will probably fit you OK, though the pants may need fabric taken out of the seat. Take it to a good tailor, not a seamstress.

    Too bad you can't try on these things at a store and then purchase from an online outfit. Do you have a good men's store nearby?
     
  9. horton

    horton Well-Known Member

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    You could buy two sizes and return the one that doesn't fit
     
  10. Roger

    Roger Well-Known Member

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    The best way to go would be to take measurements of your current best-fitting suit and compare them with those of the Isaia suit you're interested in. The key measurements that determine fit are (a) in the jacket: shoulders (sleeve seam to sleeve seam straight across the back), chest (just below armpit to armpit doubled), waist (at waist button--probably second of 3 or top of 2), length (collar seam down to hem at back), and sleeve length (shoulder/sleeve seam to cuff); and (b) trousers: waist and inseam for sure, along with width at knee and cuff (if possible). The latter two measurements don't bear much on fit, but on fullness of the cut. (You might find the Isaia trousers slimmer than you like; not likely fuller.) I know that STP don't give much in the way of measurements with their suits, but I imagine that if you contacted their sales reps or customer-service people, you could get them to give you these measurements. You could have them do this for both their 52 and 54. I know that if I were ever interested in an STP suit or jacket, I wouldn't purchase until getting this information some way.
     
  11. SuitingStyle

    SuitingStyle Well-Known Member

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    I would go with 54L. I could usually fit into 54R for European suits like Zegna and Armani, and 44R for Oxxford and other American fit. For Isaia I have to take a 56R, couldn't even get my arm through the sleeve for 54R for Isaia. But Isaia's waist is tapered, make the jacket more fitted than other suits I have.
     
  12. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Well-Known Member

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    Isaia is simliar to Kiton.

    Kiton is better, though.
     
  13. chorse123

    chorse123 Well-Known Member

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    The Isaia I have tried on fit much closer than Corneliani. Also, they have had superior materials and construction, and are simply all around more beautiful suits.
     
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    lee_44106 Well-Known Member

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    Corneliani is a good suit, Isaia "better", Kiton even "better", and the sky is blue and the sun rises from the east.

    I thought I'd contribute some USELESS reply too[​IMG]
     
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    the cornelliani "POLO II" is a quality suit, but lacks real substance, the cornelliani euro POLO II flat front is an awesome suit, longer jacket... great fit

    the Iseia i own by Paul Stuart is much boxier, and really very nice - a cut above the cornelliani every day suit. i think their patterns are much deeper as well. i think it was more expensive too.

    they are comperable however, and i like both.
     
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    Corneliani is a good suit, Isaia "better".

    Agreed.
     
  17. billiebob

    billiebob Well-Known Member

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    My two Polo II (one euro and one USA) in size 42R measure the same length. The trousers are drop 7 in the euro version instead of drop 6, which makes big difference in how the whole suit looks. I think I'll wear mine tonight!
     
  18. pkincy

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    Insteresting. I wear a 52L in Corneliani and a 42L in brands like Hickey Freeman. I'm thinking maybe I should go with a 54L in Isaia. Good thing STP has a really good return policy.

    I wear a 42L Hickey Freeman with only minor tailoring. And wear a 54L or 54R Isaia the same way. Some 54R Isaia's will be as long as your 42L HF.

    Perry
     
  19. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    I wear a 42L Hickey Freeman with only minor tailoring. And wear a 54L or 54R Isaia the same way. Some 54R Isaia's will be as long as your 42L HF.

    Perry


    Thanks Perry, for actually answering the question I was asking. I appreciate it. [​IMG]
     
  20. Lino

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    Corneliani is cut like Canali and Zegna.

    Isia has more waist suppression and for me can fit a bit snuggly around the waist, with the button pulling a bit. Oddly, if you pull the jacket away from your body while buttoned there will be space there between you and the jacket, but when you let go, the button will still be pulling.

    I have been told by sales people that this can be fixed by moving the button. I do not own an Isia, so I have not put this to the test.

    I wear a US 40R (50 R 7 Euro) and Isia is one of those rare brands that seems a little tight in the middle (seems to be mostly Neapolitan cuts that do it).
     

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