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Collar Stays

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by demeis, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. demeis

    demeis Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if the material a collar stay is made out of makes a difference? I'm guessing not but wanted to get some feedback from you guys. I'm looking into buying brass stays cause my plastics ones always seem is bend after about 3-6 months of use. (I might have just answered my own question). Is it a personal thing knowing you have $60.00 silver stays in your shirt?
     
  2. johnnynorman3

    johnnynorman3 Well-Known Member

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    I imagine that the metal does make a difference in the long run, as a silver one might not be as soft as a brass one (which will eventually be prone to bending like plastic).

    There is no doubt in my mind that MOP collar stays, like those in Carlo Franco shirts, are the best type.

    Actually, Polo makes some thick plastic stays in some of their more expensive Blue Label shirts (the Made in Italy ones) that are sort of faux MOP. They work as well as anything I'd imagine.
     
  3. demeis

    demeis Well-Known Member

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    Yeh i saw some nice multi colored plastic ones at Turnbull and Asser yesterday. I didn't look at the price cause i knew i couldn't afford them but they were really thick and looked nicer than most brass i've seen.
     
  4. Kai

    Kai Well-Known Member

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    Plastic will be easier on your shirt collars.

    I have some by Brooks Brothers that seem to have held up well.

    Brass drives the airport screeners crazy too. They can't figure out why you need something metal in your collar, and the spare ones in your carry-on luggage look just like 30.06 cartridges to the x-ray guy.
     
  5. tattersall

    tattersall Well-Known Member

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    I've got a silver pair from Dunhill, nickel(?) from TM Lewin, brass from Tyrwhitt. Â The Lewin and Dunhill are narrow and fit all my shirts, the Tyrwhitt ones are wide and fit only my two Tyrwhitt shirts.. Ideally, you should look for clear metal stays... Â [​IMG]
     
  6. Brian SD

    Brian SD Well-Known Member

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    how on earth could you get a clear metal stay? I've never even heard of a clear metal. Glass comes to mind but that's not really a metal (is it?) and I think its a bit too fragile to use as a collar stay, no?
     
  7. kabert

    kabert Well-Known Member

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    Brian,

    Perhaps 9 months ago, one of our friends on this board insisted, in all seriousness, that CLEAR METAL stays were the "best." When several people inquired about, hey pal, how is that possible, he just sort of stone-walled and wouldn't back down. It was ... interesting.
     
  8. tattersall

    tattersall Well-Known Member

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    It was Josh over on the modern man forum ... el linko
     
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    Alexander Kabbaz Well-Known Member

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    gorgekko Well-Known Member

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    What, you never heard of transparent aluminum? It was all explained in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home [​IMG]
     
  11. demeis

    demeis Well-Known Member

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    If alex says plastic then i'm gonna go with plastic. But can i ask you why?
     
  12. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Well-Known Member

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    Answered before, but the metal will, usually sooner rather than later, poke through the collar stay pocket because it is too hard and heavy. Once this happens, the only fix is a new collar.
     
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    imageWIS Well-Known Member

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    Well, if they can make translucent concrete they can make transparent metal collar stays. [​IMG] [​IMG] Jon.
     
  14. bch

    bch Well-Known Member

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    I've tried both brass and plastic. Although it may be counter-intuitive, plastic is better. It lets the collar assume a natural roll, while the brass makes the collar too stiff and unnatural. Additionally, the plastic tend to "seat" better at the tip and stay put, whereas the brass is pushed out of the tip, allowing it to fold under and look sloppy.
     
  15. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    Lord, that takes me back ...
     
  16. JLibourel

    JLibourel Well-Known Member

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    I'll make it another vote for plastic. Aside from the reason cited by the eminent Mr. Kabbaz, sooner or later a collar stay is gonna go to the laundry and get laundered with the shirt. I think the brass can cause discoloration then. In event, collar stays are easily lost, and the cost of replacing plastic is negligible. Somes stores will give you a little package or two of them free at least if you buy a shirt.
     
  17. Will

    Will Well-Known Member

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    Shirts come with stays. Since most of us wear only one shirt at a time, the accumulated stays from a wardrobe of shirts mean one should never lack for plastic.

    Clear metal? My god....

    Will
     
  18. uriahheep

    uriahheep Well-Known Member

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    I vote for plastic.

    My thoughts on MOP? For buttons? Of course. For collar stays? Just hype, and not functionally very good. They're too short for most collars, even some of the shorter collars.

    My thoughts on plastic? For buttons? Never. For collar stays? Of course.

    You could use polyester collar stays made in the shape of MOP stays, with a not-very-convincing finish to make it look like MOP. But why bother?
    In this case the cheapest(plain ol' humble plastic) is the best choice.
     
  19. Horace

    Horace Well-Known Member

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    I vote for no stays.

    It's much more gentrified and devil-may-care not to bother.
     
  20. Thracozaag

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    Best... thread... ever. koji
     

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