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Cleverley

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by RSS, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. LeatherSOUL

    LeatherSOUL Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear you are giving Cleverley a chance CDM.

    Thanks for stopping by Michael.

    Yes, many of Cleverley's samples at LSBH may not be striking. It's due to the fact that most are very old samples, basically there to show some history and classic, timeless designs. When GG Sr. and GG Jr. visit for our twice yearly shows, more modern samples are shown. However, when we get more bespoke samples from Dominic's showing in DC, I'm sure they'll be some more nicer, newer samples in the shop mix.

    Just FYI, John C. is indeed still working and NOT retired. He still works a few days a week making lasts and cutting patterns. I hear both John C and Teemu have different styles so they might make specific client's lasts depending on the style the customer wants. I think I was told Teemu made my lasts...

    Glad you guys like the ACs. They are incredible shoes in person. We just received our first few pairs of Churchills and they look great!
     
  2. cdmoore1855

    cdmoore1855 Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear you are giving Cleverley a chance CDM.

    I have opted for their signature black immitation brogue with faux laces and side gussets. Not too far from yours. Hopefully it will be pretty slick looking. Usually I don't wear black cos i think its boring
     
  3. Michael Ay329

    Michael Ay329 Well-Known Member

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    LS's Cleverley area also had an assortment of Cleverley RTW shoes. I compared 2 similar designs by Cleverley...A.C. vs. RTW. I found their A.C. lasts to be better fitting to my unique foot and had a sexier shape to them.

    Are the Anthony Cleverley line of shoes based on lasts (not shoe deisgns) made by Anthony....or were the lasts inspired by George Cleverley's last shapes?

    As much as I liked seeing the various Alden, Edward Green & John Lobb shoes...the Anthony Cleverley shoes appeared to be the finest shoes in the shop

    Kudos to Tom for making the 2 Cleverley lines available to better assist client's in deciding which designs, last shapes, leathers & price range were best suited for them.
     
  4. LeatherSOUL

    LeatherSOUL Well-Known Member

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    I have opted for their signature black immitation brogue with faux laces and side gussets. Not too far from yours. Hopefully it will be pretty slick looking. Usually I don't wear black cos i think its boring

    Nice, can't wait to see pics.

    LS's Cleverley area also had an assortment of Cleverley RTW shoes. I compared 2 similar designs by Cleverley...A.C. vs. RTW. I found their A.C. lasts to be better fitting to my unique foot and had a sexier shape to them.

    Are the Anthony Cleverley line of shoes based on lasts (not shoe deisgns) made by Anthony....or were the lasts inspired by George Cleverley's last shapes?

    As much as I liked seeing the various Alden, Edward Green & John Lobb shoes...the Anthony Cleverley shoes appeared to be the finest shoes in the shop

    Kudos to Tom for making the 2 Cleverley lines available to better assist client's in deciding which designs, last shapes, leathers & price range were best suited for them.


    The AC lasts were actually developed by George Sr., Teemu, and John C. They used AC's styling to develop a last that perfectly represented AC's style. George Sr. was actually given AC's original bespoke style books which documented each shoe he made for his clients over the years. A photocopy of a book was just given to Bryan at LSBH so if you get a chance to stop by please ask him about it. I haven't even seen it yet but can't wait to see it when I visit next.
     
  5. fritzl

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    You've unsettled me.


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    don't tell me, you didn't know that?
     
  6. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    Many good storey here.
    Tell some more


    +1

    nothing beats first hand experience.
     
  7. medwards

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    I would certainly agree that some of the bespoke samples I saw at the London Store did not have the same impact on me as G&G's samples.

    Visited the upstairs Cleverley shrine at LeatherSoul Beverly Hills. I was unmoved by the bespoke samples...

    I might hope that you have at least seen pictures (perhaps even on this or other fora) of some bespoke examples that you would find to your liking. [​IMG]
     
  8. MarquisMagic

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    I might hope that you have at least seen pictures (perhaps even on this or other fora) of some bespoke examples that you would find to your liking. [​IMG]



    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Michael Ay329

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    I might hope that you have at least seen pictures (perhaps even on this or other fora) of some bespoke examples that you would find to your liking. [​IMG]

    When I visited the Cleverley Temple at the Royal Arcade, I observed the bespoke samples in detail...a few of the squared and chiseled lasted shoes caught my eye. But most of their designs and last shapes were uninspiring...and their RTW & semi-bespoke (non A.C.) were not to my liking. I prefer the bespoke last shapes from G&G instead. Ultimately George Glasgow introduced me to a last shape that he was about to use on the then newly introduced A.C....and I really liked...so I bought it

    On a side note, I found the bespoke samples at Fosters to be much more inspirational

    Naturally I fainted repeatedly every time I handled the plethora of iconic side gussetted shoes (as pictured in Flusser's entry on Cleverley) and of course, the faux laced lazyman shoes. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I do want to add back in February of 2009, I just walked into Cleverley unannounced. The front store man was not helpful, but then George Glasgow came down. He accomodated me and I felt comfortable then. When I had met him months earlier in L.A., I was not moved to buy his product. I was wearing my G&G Thorpe boots....Glasgow called down Carnera, who had me take them off, he examined them, and said kind words about Tony Gaziano and that he liked the quality of the boot's construction. Glasgow said he can construct a shoe to rival what I had on...I took him at his word, and the final product surpassed my expectations. I appreciated the fact that Carnera was willing to acknowledge the work of his competitor in a gentleman like manner.
     
  10. medwards

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    While one can certainly think of them as competitors now, I sincerely doubt that's how John Carnera views the relationship. Tony Gaziano developed greatly whilst he was at Cleverley and he certainly learned a great deal from John. I'm sure John was pleased that his former colleague is doing well -- both in terms of his craftsmanship and his business success.
     
  11. luk-cha

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    I might hope that you have at least seen pictures (perhaps even on this or other fora) of some bespoke examples that you would find to your liking. [​IMG]

    this is the sad thing about cleveleys trunck shows, nobody ever takes pictures so all you see is the sad examples from there website, thro' it is much better now

    While one can certainly think of them as competitors now, I sincerely doubt that's how John Carnera views the relationship. Tony Gaziano developed greatly whilst he was at Cleverley and he certainly learned a great deal from John. I'm sure John was pleased that his former colleague is doing well -- both in terms of his craftsmanship and his business success.

    i liked JC when i have met him the few times i have, and was always very kind in his comments to others, and i know that TG also is greatful for the time spent with JC
     
  12. cdmoore1855

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    I look forward to seeing some of these side gusset bespoke shoes in the flesh. Some on their website look very sharp
     
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    cdmoore1855 Well-Known Member

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