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Church's worth the $ ????

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr Sola, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. Harry Lean

    Harry Lean Well-Known Member

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    How have the Church's shoes gone down hill since the Prada take over? l've never heard that before.
     
  2. misterjase

    misterjase Well-Known Member

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    for one, the post-Prada 'Masterclass's' are a shadow of the pre-Prada Masterclass's - leather wise and manufacture wise, and to my eye are Italian in shape, rather than English in shape, which I don't like.
     
  3. maxnharry

    maxnharry Well-Known Member

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    How have the Church's shoes gone down hill since the Prada take over? l've never heard that before.

    They have gone downhill dramatically and IMHO are still relying on their old reputation. As many posters previously noted, there are a number of mid/upper mid British shoemakers who make higher quality shoes at the same or a lower price.
     
  4. ColeFieldHouse

    ColeFieldHouse Well-Known Member

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    It seems like the problems that SF members have with post-Prada Church's are threefold:

    (1) Introduction of sleeker, more Italian-style models that appear incongruous with Church's traditional English offerings.

    (2) Increased use of corrected grain leather (under whatever terms they use).

    (3) Big jump in price without a corresponding increase in quality. This occurred a half-dozen years ago when currency exchange rates were (relatively) stable.

    Church's core offerings (like the Diplomat, my favorite) appear to be of the same quality as they were before the takeover. It's just that with the price hikes, the value proposition has diminished. That reduced value has manifested itself in complaints about lower quality. Such is the risk of raising prices without an improvement in quality or obvious external factor (like exchange rates currently).
     
  5. Biggskip

    Biggskip Well-Known Member

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    Hey, RJman, quick question about plal.com. Did I see that correctly that all the prices are in Malaysian Dollars? I used a currency converter off the net and found that I could roughly divide all of the quoted prices by 3.25. Does that sound right?
     
  6. TCN

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    While I won't disagree that Church's might not represent a good deal for $500, I think the OP needs to take a few things into consideration.

    First, are THESE shoes corrected grain? Who cares if Church's has offered corrected grain leather on some models at various times, if these are "custom grade" with a high quality aniline leather, then QED.

    Second, if these are at a bricks and mortar store near you and they fit you well, that's certainly an important factor. As is your opinion of the shoe's design.
     
  7. literasyme

    literasyme Well-Known Member

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    ^ This thread is two years old. I would hope the "OP" has moved on by now...
     
  8. grimslade

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    Hey, RJman, quick question about plal.com. Did I see that correctly that all the prices are in Malaysian Dollars? I used a currency converter off the net and found that I could roughly divide all of the quoted prices by 3.25. Does that sound right?

    That's about correct, I believe. type "xxxx MYR in USD" into Google to get a conversion of a plal price, where xxxx is the price.
     
  9. TCN

    TCN Well-Known Member

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    ^ This thread is two years old. I would hope the "OP" has moved on by now...

    Perhaps, although I'd like to think that my advice is timeless. [​IMG]
     
  10. misterjase

    misterjase Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps, although I'd like to think that my advice is timeless. [​IMG]
    that made me laugh out loud that one!
     
  11. Uomo Di Fretti

    Uomo Di Fretti Active Member

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    @ Christofuh: Man forget the Church's, what people really want to know is who that is in your avatar!

    Sorry for the derail. :-(
     
  12. mimile

    mimile Well-Known Member

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    Church's are overpriced for what you get.

    Church's are USD 980 or GBP 490 at one store here in Australia (Ref: Henry Bucks) which is ridiculous so it is not a surprise that people are reluctant to purchase.


    You can order Church's shoes it directly from England for much cheaper than that, especially if you are ready to have items on sale or slight seconds from Herringshoes (between 170 and 220 GBP), which is not bad, in my opinion. The best shoes are around 320 GBP (custom grade) of which you should deduct the VAT and add transportation and customs.
     
  13. misterjase

    misterjase Well-Known Member

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    yes, that is what we have to resort here. i am sure those who walk into this store (Ref: Henry Bucks) to purchase and see that kind of price are shocked. the comparisons would suggest that the price from Church's is not justified to start with and then salt is added to the wound to make it painful in the extreme.
     
  14. Tarmac

    Tarmac Well-Known Member

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    You can order Church's shoes it directly from England for much cheaper than that, especially if you are ready to have items on sale or slight seconds from Herringshoes (between 170 and 220 GBP), which is not bad, in my opinion. The best shoes are around 320 GBP (custom grade) of which you should deduct the VAT and add transportation and customs.

    Of course those prices still lead to the answer to the original post - no they are not worth it.
     

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