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Choosing a specific race/appearance to reproduce with

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Svenn, May 28, 2010.

  1. Gradstudent78

    Gradstudent78 Well-Known Member

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    There is a phenomenon in plants called heterosis and it would not be surprising or outlandish if a similar principle existed in animals. In our time and place and culture aspects of heredity are viewed as taboo as shown by some of the responses to your post. Probably because of the historical one two punch of Nazism and slavery.

    It does, but generally it's going to apply to circumstances where you have a highly inbred (usually small) population. What is typically classified as racial groups just are not that genetically homogeneous (i.e. not that inbred).
     
  2. redcaimen

    redcaimen Well-Known Member

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    It does, but generally it's going to apply to circumstances where you have a highly inbred (usually small) population. What is typically classified as racial groups just are not that genetically homogeneous (i.e. not that inbred).

    You sound like you know something about this. In your opinion would you say then that a kind of animal heterosis is not likely to exist for humans or that it is greatly attenuated by the apparent fact that human populations are not that genetically homogeneous and therefore insignificant?
     
  3. Gradstudent78

    Gradstudent78 Well-Known Member

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    You sound like you know something about this. In your opinion would you say then that a kind of animal heterosis is not likely to exist for humans or that it is greatly attenuated by the apparent fact that human populations are not that genetically homogeneous and therefore insignificant?

    I would say for the most part it's unlikely to exist or if it does exist, then in a very mild form. Where it might exist are in small religious organizations that forbid any level of outbreeding and don't allow converts from the outside or small indigenious tribal groups that are similarly isolated (in a genetic sense). However, such closed off religious groups usually don't survive long enough to form a highly inbred genetic lineage and such indigenious tribal populations are becoming increasingly rare. Most groups also have mechanisms to avoid inbreeding problems (for example: incest avoidance and exchange of marital partners from groups living farther away).

    The old order Amish might be an example (they tend to have higher frequencies of certain genetic conditions).
     
  4. Svenn

    Svenn Well-Known Member

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    ^only thing I've heard is that ashkenazi jews have a number of specific diseases possibly because of the level of inbreeding that went on in such a small population in yesteryears. Though that hasn't stopped them from becoming one of the most intelligent people on the planet, so who knows. Master-Classter- I don't actually have a link but for a half-asian/asian jewish person, I'm sure Israel would be the place to look. Get invited to a party at the Japanese embassy in Jerusalem, or vice versa in Tokyo [​IMG]
    On the whole, I feel wild type humans live better lives. I've seen too many emotionally unstable mixed race kids to know better.
    they're emotionally unstable because they're mixed?
    My gf is a tiny 4 ft 8 thai girl. I'm determined not to have a son because life is unkind to short men.
    This is a valid concern, and I'm not sure how you can resolve it. I think the dominant/fatherly impulse in men makes them attracted to shorter/petite women... yet if every guy did it we'd turn into a world of dwarves. I actually know of a redneck who specifically sought a large stout woman so his kids would be good at sports... thankfully they turned out to be lanky bumbling giants that weren't any good at 'em.
    Yeah, if I knew Svenn IRL I'd go out of my way to cause problems for him and make sure he couldn't make any friends or girlfriends.
    why the hatin' Eason ?? I doubt you'll do it, but would care to humor me as to what you possibly could have found offensive about this topic? I thought I sufficiently disclaimed that this convo was hypothetical and speculative in the op... it's not like i'm seriously plotting a master chart of the superiority of phenotypes in some dark eugenicist cave somewhere....
     
  5. Reggs

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    I would also like to add, I would give more consideration to interracial children if they were to be in a culture that was adverse to them. SoCal is a safe bet for it, so I dont worry about it. I would if I lived in a predominately all white or all asian culture.

    Even with white/black children, I think the race dynamics are simply too strong to think of having a mixed child. Had my gf been black, I dont think I would ever want a child if I had planned on staying in the south.

    Re: Svenn:

    I guess I find shorter women attractive? I never sought such an extreme as the one I have with my gf, but it would bother me if a woman was taller than I am. I dont think I could be attracted to that. I freely admit that because of my southern upbringing that I want to be the more dominate of the two in a relationship, and I think height plays a role in that. I know the close relationship a father and son can have and often wonder if I will miss it. I dont view short men as inferior, but they do tend to have more relationship and emotional problems.
     
  6. Svenn

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    ^thanks for the first honest reply in this thread reggs.

    I'm from one of those all-white areas where if I stayed, having a mixed kid would probably be just too burdensome on him/her for me to be capable of actively ignoring that reality. Obviously if I really fell in love with someone from a different background, then I wouldn't give a shit... but if I have a choice in the matter it might be better to avoid it. Truth is non-whites worry about this more than whites generally, though you're not allowed to even talk about without being called a racist. On the whole though, I don't think half-asians are given much trouble anywhere in the US, do you?


    I dont view short men as inferior, but they do tend to have more relationship and emotional problems.

    yeah, it's not that big of a deal, but it's still an extra little burden you probably wouldn't want to put on your kid if you had a choice.
     
  7. Nil

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    I'm mixed (half-Asian) and from a predominately white area. I got in a few fights and stomped some heads but otherwise it wasn't much of an issue. Other mixed kids I know of a variety of different races had similar experiences. Maybe if you're from a particularly ignorant area of the South (or where ever else for that matter) it'd be more of an issue, but these days it's not that relevant in the US at least.
     
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    is that scientifically true? I've heard people say that about mixed-race kids before, never believed it though.

    I'm mixed, 6'4", smart, successful, devastatingly handsome, and, of course, very well dressed. Coincidence???????
     
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    I'm mixed, 6'4", smart, successful, devastatingly handsome, and, of course, very well dressed. Coincidence???????

    I think not!
     
  10. Dakota rube

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    So far in my life I have tried to limit my women to those with vaginas.
    Beyond that it doesn't really matter to me.
     
  11. Neo_Version 7

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    Fortunately, my penis does not discriminate.
     
  12. redcaimen

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    Fortunately, my penis does not discriminate.

    Is this in reply to Rube limiting himself to just people with vaginas?
     
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    So far in my life I have tried to limit my women to those with vaginas.
    Beyond that it doesn't really matter to me.


    Please tell more...[​IMG]
     
  14. Harold falcon

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    Why? I know plenty of interesting midgets.
    <==


    oooh, awkward...
     
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    I did not choose my wife in hopes of cute babies, I just find most asian women are far more attractive than the cuacasion women around me.
     
  17. Szeph el raton

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    I have quite low standards and would make the two backed beast with nearly everything that has a pulse and the qualities the rube stated. Besides that, I'm more interested in "interesting" women instead of beautiful ones. The chicks other guys describe as "stunning" usually just look boring beautiful to me.

    But I'll prefer nearly every ethnicity over caucasian, it's bad enough that I look typical middle European myself. Up to now, the jungle fever is the strongest in me. I have a soft spot for Haitians [​IMG]
     
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  19. gdl203

    gdl203 Well-Known Member

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    Half-elf = winar
     
  20. whiteslashasian

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    Half-elf = winar

    Halfies win again!
     

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