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CBD WAYWRN: An Experiment

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. oldog/oldtrix

    oldog/oldtrix Well-Known Member

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    Now that I like. Very much.
     
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    The shirt / tie combo is too busy for my taste (patterns too similar in scale). Nice choice of square.
     
  5. Eustace Tilley

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    I would definitely change that square - too matchy-matchy w/ the tie. A white linen piped in blue would look good imo.

    Otherwise the look is fine, albeit somewhat bland.
     
  6. TRINI

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    I would definitely change that square - too matchy-matchy w/ the tie.

    Agreed.

    A white linen piped in blue would look good imo.

    Disagreed. I think it'd look just as coordinated.
     
  7. Eustace Tilley

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    Disagreed. I think it'd look just as coordinated.

    Hmm, I reread my suggestion and agree with you. The white / blue linen would only accentuate the shirt / tie color combination.
     
  8. Eustace

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    Now that I like. Very much.

    Thanks. Appreciate it.
     
  9. Redwoood

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    I'm actually doing that less and less but for certain outfits I think the BD/tie works better than no tie.

    I remember at least one thread that is dedicated to this question.
    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=210266

    Personally, I don't think BD without tie is a good look. With a tie, the collar points towards the wearer's face (and actually forms an arrow with the tie). Without a tie, you have to unbutton the top button, and then the collar buttons force the collar to spread out in such a way as to point downwards, away from the face. At best, the collar is parallel to your neck, which looks odd to me. I guess you could unbutton the BD, but that's a different story altogether.
     
  10. Eustace Tilley

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    FWIW, I never wear a tie with a BD. I also typically go tieless when wearing a sportcoat (though I probably wear one no more than once a week.)
     
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    wow - a dissertation on the angle of lines created by an unbuttoned collar... [​IMG]
     
  12. SkinnyGoomba

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    SkinnyGoomba,
    that works very well for me. Not a receding into the background look, but a bold/sharp go out there and knock'em dead outfit.


    Thank you!

    Fred and Old dog, good looks! Old dog's one of my favorite posters for looks on this board. You can tell from the images posted that olddog has been doing this for a long time, and he's comfortable with his personal style.
     
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    I remember at least one thread that is dedicated to this question.
    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=210266

    Personally, I don't think BD without tie is a good look. With a tie, the collar points towards the wearer's face (and actually forms an arrow with the tie). Without a tie, you have to unbutton the top button, and then the collar buttons force the collar to spread out in such a way as to point downwards, away from the face. At best, the collar is parallel to your neck, which looks odd to me. I guess you could unbutton the BD, but that's a different story altogether.


    Agreed. BD without tie becomes like a reverse spread collar. Kind of sloppy, not a good look to my eye. I like medium spread in all situations.
     
  14. Manton

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    The shirt / tie combo is too busy for my taste (patterns too similar in scale).

    Agree. The shade and texture of the suit is very nice.
     
  15. dopey

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    I'm actually doing that less and less but for certain outfits I think the BD/tie works better than no tie.

    +1. I have really started to like OCBD with black grenadine tie for brown tweed sportcoats and medium brown grenadine for blue tweeds.

    Great thread, BTW.
     
  16. Manton

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    If/when I wear a tie on a weekend or to a social event, unless it is after work, I always wear a BD collar. And pretty much always with an odd jacket. Linen in summer, OCBD in cooler weather.

    To work, a BD maybe once a month. I actually got comments on it yesterday. Typically, nothing I wear, not even vests, elicit comments.
     
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    The OCBD, with or without a tie, is secksy. [​IMG]
     
  18. ManofKent

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    As someone who used to do this a lot, here are a couple of thoughts. My first impression was that the shirt and tie are too "matchy", although it's really not that egregious. I think it's a natural inclination to think purple tie when you are looking at that shirt. In fact, if you walk around any run of the mill department store, they will have shirt and tie combos laid out like that all over the place. If you want to play off of the color of the shirt with the tie, I've found it to be more elegant to choose a tie where the base color is softly contrasting the shirt, but with details in the tie that might tie it to the shirt.
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    Anyways, just a few amateur thoughts from my own experience.


    Thanks. I find ginghams and checks difficult to pattern 'match' so I tend to stick to solids, or very large paisleys. Avoiding scale/business problems always feels tricky. As I've got more than one purple/lavender/mauve shirt I probably ought to try and think about appropriate ties. Grey is safe with the right suit, and I guess burgundy will be fine. Green sounds good in theory, but greens seem to be a pig to use successfully.
     
  19. ManofKent

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    My main concern with this fit is not the colors, but the fact that the suit has a good bit of sheen to it. I am wondering if this takes it out of the realm of CBD.

    Mike

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    Whilst it has a sheen I think it avoids the 'shiny' suit look, and I suspect under office lighting the sheen is reduced anyway. I like the combining btw.
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    Navy suit today, feeling bold.

    I confess I don't see the problem with this shade of yellow on a white shirt.
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    I would swap the tie, and personally I'm not a fan of elasicated shoes beyond chelseas but that might just be my narrow mindedness.
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    Burgundy or cream PS instead.
     
  20. someotherstyle

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    Chiming on the BD with suit/tie, I think BDs are traditionally (and still are) too casual for a business or worsted suit. Maybe with a country suit, cotton suit or linen suit, but the button down is an informal shirt, and not suitable to be worn with a tie and business dress.
     

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