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Casual Clothing - a sign of social class?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by terminat, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. Wade M

    Wade M Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh, research: kitonbrioni, you're my hero! Two of the papers are freely available:


    The last is summarised in http://web1.msue.msu.edu/imp/modrr/rr556098.html


    And you would be mine. Your input into this thread totally changed the style of thinking going on in here!

    Adding metrics and anthropology to the situation allows graphing possible, which would allow this to be tracked --Awesome practical nature.

    --WadeM
     
  2. Wade M

    Wade M Well-Known Member

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    So much of this depends on culture.

    Where I live, there is a broad mix of cultures, mostly middle class. These are all stereytypes that fit quite well for the area.

    The Anglos amongst us tend to place less value on appearance, dress. More money tends to go on toys (such as plasma televisions) than outward signifiers of wealth.

    The Chinese culture values appearances of wealth, and nearly without exception they have better houses, better cars and better clothes than the guy next door.

    The Europeans tend to value appearance in dress, but it is more about gloss than substance. They are more similar to the Anglos, tending to put money into toys.

    The Vietnamese culture is similar to the Chinese but seems to place more of a premium on functionality.

    The Indians and Sri Lankans place very high value in the position of employment that someone is engaged in. It is a very common question.

    So, it's all relative to culture. I choose to dress well, not just for myself, but because I know that while my other Anglos may not appreciate it so much, a Chinese customer might base his decision on it. Even in casual dress I pepper my wardrobe with discreet logos because I know they will appreciate it. (Indeed, am often complimented.)


    I think your cultures tho are not speicific to your area but to the heritiage of the people. This is where subcultutres come into the picture.

    --WadeM
     
  3. globetrotter

    globetrotter Well-Known Member

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    I think that the OP's premise is very sound, if perhaps not well enough defined. in general. one of the problems we have in america of judging people's class is the number of very wealthy people who are self made, and are therefore of one class based on their socilization, and another based on their bank account.

    I belive casual clothes show a great deal about a person - it is easier to learn what to wear for business, and it is easier to justify spending money on good clothes for work. casual clothes allow a little peak into a person's soul, in a way. 3 observations:

    1. wealthy people might very well not be wearing extremly expensive or fancy casual clothes, but a solid casual wardrobe from good trad suppliers, with good trad casual shoes tells you a lot about a persons culture. my boss wears very casual clothes from a chain to work, but his casual wardrobe holds a lot of very good quality trad casual clothes. he is 3rd generation midwest money, and his casual wardrobe shows it much better than his day to day.

    2. I find that a lot of the time men who work in work clothes (work with their hands) try to dress "fancy" on the weekends, in cheap suits and ties. this is their "casual" clothes, and it tells a lot about them.

    3. a lot of people stretch their income to dress well for work, and then end up in old navy on the weekend. tells you something about them (I put myself in this catagory, by the way)
     

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