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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Find Finn

    Find Finn Well-Known Member

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    The q7 looks like a turned over tub anyway and is due for an update, the new x5 isn't much better.

    How about a cayenne?
     
  2. otc

    otc Well-Known Member

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    Diesel engines are great to drive...torque grunt is much more entertaining than HP in normal driving conditions.
    Where do you have trouble finding diesel? Are you just not looking hard enough? There is a ton of diesel on the road in both urban and rural areas...even the cramped-for-space urban gas stations by me sell diesel.

    What does piob even need a giant truck with performance for anyways? It's not like he has to get the kids to soccer practice or haul any lumber...why not just get something smaller with performance that will blow it away?
     
  3. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Well-Known Member

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    My sentiments exactly. He should get a CLS63 AMG and call it a day.
     
  4. mafoofan

    mafoofan Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the choices people make in this thread.
     
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  5. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    Cayenne is too small. If I'm willing to go that small there's a host of different vehicles but I want full size.


    If you raise the concept of "need" in this thread you should not be posting here. This thread is as far from "need" based vehicles as you can get.

    I desire a full size SUV with above average acceleration, above average handling for a vehicle in this class, luxury, and a decent service experience.
     
  6. HRoi

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    You don't want an Escalade, then. Torquey engines and decent power figures, but real world acceleration is disappointing and handling, steering and body roll are literally sickening. I've driven a lot of them because Hertz has a lot of them and likes to throw them at me in upgrade deals.
     
  7. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    Ugh. One of the things I love about my GL is the fancy suspension that virtually eliminates body roll, which as you know, is the bane of large vehicles.

    I'm having no little bit of existential angst over this. The 550 is just too egregiously expensive for me to mentally justify even though it comes standard with everything including AMG rims.
     
  8. Find Finn

    Find Finn Well-Known Member

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    Says the guy who wants a g63 and has 83lbs diningchairs.
     
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  9. mafoofan

    mafoofan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, no compromises. A SUV should be a motherfucking SUV. It should be able to climb rocks and maybe take a rocket blast or two. A concrete dining chair should be a . . . well, you know.

    The obsession with fast accelerating luxury SUVs makes little to no sense. It's just what people want when they don't know what they want, except that they want more and they need everybody else to know they have it.
     
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  10. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    If this is designed to apply to me or the GL you could not have constructed a more incorrect post. I know exactly what I want, I don't want more (the 550 or AMG, a Porsche, nor a Rover) and the GL 450 is highly understated.
     
  11. UnFacconable

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    This thread is no longer about "cars we drive" because that can only last so long. Most of the talk now is how posters would choose to option out a car they would never buy. Some of the talk is genuinely seeking advice or wanting to discuss cars that people might actually buy and of course a small minority of the thread is actually posting pictures and describing cars that people have in fact acquired. I think if there's one take away from the thread it's that people have almost as much fun (maybe more for some people?) thinking about what cars they might buy than actually buying and driving cars.

    I am probably a good example of the mindset. I love cars as mechanical objects and like hammering my car when the opportunity arises, but the reality is that it rarely arises and I spend most of my driving time wishing I were doing something else. Most of my driving time is commuting or going somewhere for recreational activities.

    I know Bawlin will never buy a car (no offense dude) but I don't mind hearing what color he'd choose for the 2015 M4 that he'll never buy or any of the other 30 cars he talks about getting. Similarly, I find it entertaining to read a rain man esque discussion of the center caps for obscure aftermarket rims (and yes I added obscure just to increase the blood pressure for the guys who collect old BBS catalogs and spend their free time deciding what type of rims they'd put on their 993 turbo that they'll never own.

    It's probably a good thing that we don't all understand or agree with other people's car buying decisions because otherwise there would be precious little of entertaining value in car discussions.
     
  12. mafoofan

    mafoofan Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't addressing you directly, no. But the GL450 falls under my criticism.

    It has neither the comfort nor on-road drivability of a sedan, nor the off-road capabilities of a focused SUV, nor the utility of a wagon or minivan.

    What do you actually want or need out of a car? Summing that all up, luxury SUVs are virtually never the answer.
     
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  13. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    UnF, you've had a rash of highly sensible posts lately.
     
  14. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    How can you say it lacks the utility of a wagon? Have you driven in a GL450? It matches or surpasses the comfort of the vast majority of sedans on the road, out drives the vast majority of sedans, and has the room you just cannot get in a sedan. It also sits higher on the road, has AWD, and is quite capable in adverse weather conditions. As I also said it's understated and not "bling" in the least so completely nullifies the charge you made of letting others know.

    For me it's a perfect mixture of just enough of many more single purpose vehicles.
     
  15. UnFacconable

    UnFacconable Well-Known Member

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    my posts have always been sensible to me

    :cheers:
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out WTF two shitty underpowered examples of the E Class, neither of which is sold in North America, has to do piob bitching about the GL engines for 2015.
     
  17. TC (Houston)

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    Yeah now we're talkin! lol
     
  18. JayJay

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    Agreed. :)
     
  19. otc

    otc Well-Known Member

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    Yeah still don't get it.

    Maybe it out drives most sedans on the road... But so does pretty much every car anywhere near that price range. Something that isn't a bloated 7 seater can offer you so much more.

    If you are going to buy a gasoline powered penis enlarger, you might as well get one where it is a tossup between "that guy just wanted an awesome car" and "that guy is compensating"
     
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  20. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    You guys are misreading things by a long shot and I'm not really going to clarify why. I'll just say having a car that can haul us in great comfort, plus luggage, plus a dozen cases of wine, and still scream down the interstate is what I want. It might not be for everyone but I want a lux vehicle that can do it all and that's what the GL has been for me.
     

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