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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. whiteslashasian

    whiteslashasian Well-Known Member

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    P1 is going to be bonkers. The new Porsche 918 should be quite impressive as well.

    These are both a step up in price from the Italia though...
     
  2. GreenFrog

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    I see so many mp4s in Dallas, it's ridiculous. Have also seen alpina b7s on four separate occasions.

    Exhaust note on the Mclaren is interesting. Almost sounds a bit artificial.
     
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    Followed what looked like a '13 330D home, but the license plate was M3 SUL. They hadn't even removed the 330D badges....
     
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    That's a fantastic deal actually. I don't think it'll carry much in resale the way 335i's do (base 3ers have always tanked in a very sad way, 318i sedans were nearly cross-shoppable on the used market with Civics that cost half as much for the same model years) but if you were to have a new car and were looking for the blend of economy plus a decent driving experience, I'd much rather have this over a GTi or some other sport compact.
     
  6. Piobaire

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    Got stuck behind a convertible M3 this morning. Guy drove like a blind grandmother. You guys are always talking about performance driving, but I'm not kidding, 99% of M class cars I see are getting driven at 10 mph under the limit.

    Saw a new shiny new Lamborghini in Vegas last week and the plate read "Intnl Spy." Made me chuckle.
     
  7. impolyt_one

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    Thinking of finally buying a car and possibly very soon, but only a beater to keep in Tokyo at least just for the interim or whatever it may be. Marriage is still not in great condition and so I don't want to commit to a real purchase but I have the itch to drive and go to the beach and cruise on some trips this summer across Japan, so I am thinking a $5,000 JDM AP1 S2000 I found online; and if I get it and things still go to pot, then it's not a big deal. Keeping it dirt cheap takes all the pressure off, and it's still spotlessly clean because it's in Japan. The one I found has the OEM hardtop, 17" Mugen MF10's and a Mugen catback with dual Ti cans; the two Mugen upgrades alone probably worth $4,000 on the used market if i sold them tomorrow. It's a steal, IMO. Plus I could take it to any number of classic Honda shops for even regular maintenance, like Spoon or Type ONE (20 minutes away) or even tuning. Parts are looking to be dirt fucking cheap on yahoo auctions (Japanese ebay)... all signs point to yes...
     
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  8. Rumpelstiltskin

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    Selected quote from the comments section:

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    So true. Honda Prelude vtech made 190 hp back in the early to mid 90s (ex wife had a 1995). Hell the 4 cyl Acura TSX has always made about 200 hp or so.



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  10. A Y

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    At what RPM? Quoting HP and torque without reference to an RPM curve doesn't really describe what the engine is like to drive. Honda's VTEC would kick you in the butt over a certain RPM and be anemic below. BMW's M52 felt great down low, but ran out of breath up top. Both produced roughly 190HP.

    I think a lot of car "enthusiasts" these days substitute car horsepower for the length of their penis.

    A turbo lets BMW balance drivability and economy in an environment of stricter emissions regulations.
     
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  11. Rumpelstiltskin

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    The point is in 1994 you could buy a 4 cylinder n/a car with nearly 200 hp that was driveable and fun but nearly 20 years later BMW is trying to sell us a 180 hp turbocharged 4 cylinder engine for 35 grand? I had a 325 with a m50 (no VANOS) which was anemic down low but loved to rev and felt happiest at speed and it too made 190 hp yet 20 years later BMW is attempting to sell a 180hp car for 35k? Why should I pay top dollar for a car that makes bargain basement power? A Honda Civic makes 201 hp on a n/a engine for christ sake. It's not about hp making up for penis size, it's about BMW purposely dumbing down their cars. I just don't understand the logic

    Personally I think turbos are a cheesy gimmick and cheap power (as opposed to designing a proper engine which is what BMW used to do) but to each his own.
     
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  12. whiteslashasian

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    I think they expect people who opt for the turbo 4 with the sport suspension and 6mt to fiddle with the ECU and likely get quite a bit of a performance boost.
     
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    What he said. Would also note that given the overlap in parts between the 320 and 328, should be relatively easy for aftermarket tuners to chip the 320 into a decent HP bump.
     
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    Driving my 2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe (6MT) at Lime Rock Park.


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    Driving my 2007 BMW E90 335i Sedan (6MT, ZSP, RWD) at Lime Rock Park.


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    Driving a Skip Barber MX-5 Cup car through the optional chicane at "The Uphill" (Turn 5). This isn't my car, but it’s a “car I drive” occasionally.
     
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    The engine isn't the only difference between those cars. You are paying for a lot more in a BMW, whether you need it or not. And $35k in 2013 is about $23k in 1994.

    So Audi won 11 Le Mans in 13 years using cheesy gimmicks? What is a proper engine anyway? Some would argue that a small-block Chevy V8 in almost any sports car application is the only proper choice.
     
  16. Rumpelstiltskin

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    Acura can put a 200 hp 2.4 litre 4 cylinder engine in their Civi...err...TSX and made it pretty driveable and with no emissions issues. Meanwhile BMW puts a turbocharger on a 2 litre motor for a grand total of 180 hp? The hell? And your reasoning sounds like the little dick dude explaining to his g/f about motions and oceans. In the end it is just an excuse for not being able to perform




    BMW established a reputation for their silky smooth inline 6s and not turbocharged cars like Audi. Other than a limited production 2002 back in the 70s, has BMW ever made a turbocharged road car? They shunned forced induction, turned up their noses to them. Even the vaunted BMW M1 was naturally aspirated. Now every friggin car is turbocharged. WTF? What's next? Front Wheel Drive?
     
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    Imma give them a piece of my mind while I'm waiting for my ham & swiss croissant and my earl grey tea!




    that's a joke
     
  19. GreenFrog

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    Would it ever be possible to produce big NA engines with decent gas mileage?

    Is a V8 that gets 25 mpg on the highway that difficult to produce?!
     
  20. HRoi

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    Have a big torquey motor and a really tall top gear ratio like the Vette and GT500
     

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