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Car totaled, need new 1, BMW vs Lexus

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by von Rothbart, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Well-Known Member

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    My car has been totaled due to damage sustained from last week's flooding. I narrow my choice down to BMW & Lexus. My heart says BMW but my brain says Lexus.

    I keep hearing ravings about Lexus' reliability. Can anyone who owns or owned one tell me just how reliable and trouble-free Lexus is? How about the handling? Comfort?.... etc. The stylings are kind of bland, but I am willing to overlook.
     
  2. imageWIS

    imageWIS Well-Known Member

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    What is your price range?

    Jon.
     
  3. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Well-Known Member

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    VR,

    I'm on my second Lexus ES. Absolutely great cars. No service issues in combined 8 years of ownership. Dealer service is the best of any car mfr. Best audio system except perhaps the Acura ELS. The air conditioning has very high air flow which is important here in Atlanta.

    What I might suggest is an IS350 if it has enough room for you. It's as good at handling as a BMW and has Lexus reliability/service/luxury. Plus paddle shifters.

    I hope that helps. [​IMG]
     
  4. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Well-Known Member

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    What is your price range?

    Jon.


    My range is quite wide, I am thinking of 3, 5, 7, IS, ES, GS or LS, basically all 4-door sedan. New or CPO. But no SUV.

    VR,

    I'm on my second Lexus ES. Absolutely great cars. No service issues in combined 8 years of ownership. Dealer service is the best of any car mfr. Best audio system except perhaps the Acura ELS. The air conditioning has very high air flow which is important here in Atlanta.

    What I might suggest is an IS350 if it has enough room for you. It's as good at handling as a BMW and has Lexus reliability/service/luxury. Plus paddle shifters.

    I hope that helps. [​IMG]


    What kind of mileage do you have on your 2 Lexus? I hate car shopping so much that I want to keep my next one as long as possible. I like the new IS styling, the old one is kind of blah.
     
  5. aportnoy

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    I'm also on my second Lexus, the RX 350 and I couldn't be happier. While there are undoubtedly sportier, faster options, the Lexus is wonderfully designed , comfortable as hell and has everything that you could want and nothing superfluous!

    VR...I'd be happy to bring into NYC for you to check out and take a spin.
     
  6. GQgeek

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    I'm also on my second Lexus, the RX 350 and I couldn't be happier. While there are undoubtedly sportier, faster options, the Lexus is wonderfully designed , comfortable as hell and has everything that you could want and nothing superfluous!

    VR...I'd be happy to bring into NYC for you to check out and take a spin.


    And then after the drive you two can go shoe shopping, take pics, and post them back here. [​IMG]
     
  7. aportnoy

    aportnoy Well-Known Member

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    And then after the drive you two can go shoe shopping, take pics, and post them back here. [​IMG]

    We could double with Conne and Ed![​IMG]
     
  8. Connemara

    Connemara Well-Known Member

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    We could double with Conne and Ed![​IMG]

    Who doesn't love a double date[​IMG]
     
  9. Artisan Fan

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    What kind of mileage do you have on your 2 Lexus? I hate car shopping so much that I want to keep my next one as long as possible. I like the new IS styling, the old one is kind of blah.

    I had 60K on first one and 51K on my current car. There is actually a wall at my dealer of several dozen cars that have hit a million miles.

    P.S. Due up in a few months is an IS500 with very large engine, in case you need extra power.
     
  10. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Well-Known Member

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    BMW styling is just awful these days. That brand has gone to shit IMO. The 3 series looks nice, but I'd still feel badly about indirectly supporting the rubbish that they are churning out of their factories these days.

    By contrast, Lexus is on the cutting edge of Hybrid technology, looks very subtle, but not staid...

    Lexus would be my choice.
     
  11. visionology

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    I love the Lexus IS, it's in my top list to replace my current car when it dies. Pretty much all of them are tanks and last forever which is my cup o tea. The only one that I overlook is the ES, I just can't get over the design of it and I like something smaller with a little more edge and better handling.
     
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    I had 60K on first one and 51K on my current car. There is actually a wall at my dealer of several dozen cars that have hit a million miles.

    P.S. Due up in a few months is an IS500 with very large engine, in case you need extra power.


    Do you have the new IS? What are the maintenance costs? Are you able to go to Toyota dealerships for general maintenance since there are more of them?
     
  13. excellence

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    BMW.
    I drove both IS350 and BMW 335i.

    The 335i is a hell lot better to drive.
    Is350 feels like a corolla with luxery interior. Not worth the money in my opinion.

    Get the BMW 335i Coupe or 4 door depending on your taste. The bmw is a much better drive. Hell I drive bmw all my life, I can't find a better feeling car than a bmw. The price for the bmw is just right and the driving experence is worth every penny. Even the 323i bmw is amazing, it's a cornering beast. I'll tell yah that.


    If you want to see pictures let me know. I'll post some here.


    [​IMG]
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  14. A Y

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    Drive both brands, and one will speak to you.

    Personally, I think Lexus styling is derivative and me-too.

    --Andre
     
  15. lakewolf

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    My car has been totaled due to damage sustained from last week's flooding. I narrow my choice down to BMW & Lexus. My heart says BMW but my brain says Lexus.

    I keep hearing ravings about Lexus' reliability. Can anyone who owns or owned one tell me just how reliable and trouble-free Lexus is? How about the handling? Comfort?.... etc. The stylings are kind of bland, but I am willing to overlook.


    Follow your heart man, you'll never regret !

    BMW.
    I drove both IS350 and BMW 335i.

    The 335i is a hell lot better to drive.
    Is350 feels like a corolla with luxery interior. Not worth the money in my opinion.

    Get the BMW 335i Coupe or 4 door depending on your taste. The bmw is a much better drive. Hell I drive bmw all my life, I can't find a better feeling car than a bmw. The price for the bmw is just right and the driving experence is worth every penny. Even the 323i bmw is amazing, it's a cornering beast. I'll tell yah that.


    What the man said !
     
  16. LabelKing

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    I had 60K on first one and 51K on my current car. There is actually a wall at my dealer of several dozen cars that have hit a million miles. P.S. Due up in a few months is an IS500 with very large engine, in case you need extra power.
    I find Japanese cars to be rather shoddy especially in regards to details and interior. Million mile cars are not anything new for Mercedes-Benz which has several vintage models that have exceeded the million mark. http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/histor...illion-mile.do http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/history/news/taxi.do
     
  17. culverwood

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    Don't go for either the 7 series or the LS. The 7 series is due for replacement very soon and neither are the best in the luxury car market. In that sector I would go for the S class although the current model's styling is not to my tastes or if I had the nerve the Maserati Quattroporte.

    Lexus - Church's
    BMW - C&J
    Mercedes - EG
    Maserati - Lohn Lobb Paris
     
  18. tailorrmade

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    VR

    I have both. I have a Lexus GS 300 ( my wife's car) and a BMW 745Li. Both are EXCELLENT cars. The Lexus is a very reliable, sporty and well built car. I have never had a problem with it! Maintenance costs are a little steep for a Toyota brand in my opinion. The BMW is my favorite car by far. It is large, roomy, sporty and luxorious. The BMW has a 100,000 mile maintenance plan on it where I don't pay for ANYTHING but gas and tires. And I mean ANYTHING. I've had my dealership take dings out of the doors for me. I do need to say that since the 745 was extremely aggressive when it came to the number of innovations included in the car, there were a few issues with the earlier models. 2002 was a bad year, 2003 was OK and then 2004-present were pretty good. My car is a 2003 and a few sensors did need to be replaced. I have had no major issues with the car and I love it. The Lexus LS 470 is an AWESOME car but I don't think you will get the BMW performance. PM me if you have any questions.
     
  19. imageWIS

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    I would go for a 335i, but if you want a larger car, then get a 535i. I looked at the IS before I got my A4, and its interior is crap compared to the Audi's. There is a certain "˜solidness' that's missing in Japanese cars which all luxury German cars seem to automatically have.

    Speaking of Audi, why not take a look at an S4 / RS4 or even better an S6, with a Lamborghini V10 engine! [​IMG]

    Jon.
     
  20. culverwood

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    If you can get one the VW Phaeton (I think they are discontinued inthe USA) is a very good car in the 7/LS sector.
    A Flying Spur in a better looking suit without the turbos but with all the quality at 1/2 the price. I admit I am prejudiced as I have one but they are a stealth wealth classic.

    VW - Addidas
     

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